EVE General Discussion

I will never understand how people talk about user numbers and never seem to take into account changes CCP made to the game or how people use alts.

If it says 30,000 users online, that's not and has never been 30,000 people. Last time CCP told us, people had 2.2 accounts average, if it says 30,000 users that's probably closer to 13,000 or so real people. And CCP change a bunch of things like how people could use isboxer and how people can train and even how often people have to log in to switch skills and the War of botting.

TL;DR the little concurrent user thing you see when you log in has never told you and will never tell you how many people are playing the game at any one time, it's useless to try to guess.

Honestly, you lost all credibility here. You drug an icon from one box over to another box, then went about your business until time to repeat. This is not hard. Nothing else in your post is more than a tear filled rant coming from someone who is, ultimately, nothing more than butthurt that their overpowered gameplay finally got nerfed. Note, you can still assist fighters to fleet members, you just have to be on grid to do it.

Ahh, didn't see that, then again, I sold my carrier quite a while back.

I know why I hate you.

Anyone training specifically for skynet without anticipating it would get some tweaking to reduce its effectiveness or even stop it would be naive at best and has no sympathy from me - there is a whole world of difference between that and completely removing any kind of fighter delegation/assistance from the game... no one ever complained about "skynet" when fighters couldn't hit the broad side of a barn at the worst you'd expect a regression to that (which IMO is a pretty poor fix but atleast there would be something still to play with) - there are a lot of balanced ways to completely stop skynet without taking the hacksaw to fighters and with minimal if any knock on effect to people using fighters in ways completely unrelated to "skynet"... this is pure and simply bad development plain and simple and for that reason I'm out.

*Rely. Before calling out anyone else's stupidity, check your own. 'Skynetting' has been around forever. Why are people bitching about it now? Answer: mostly, an influx of soft weaklings to the game. However, now people know what skynetting is, because of all the whining about it and know how it works, it would require just as much stupidity on the victim's part to not use scouts and check for carriers in systems they're traversing.

Well they never actually fix anything else....

But the point stands, don't solicit feedback if you're not even going to listen to it. There was an easier fix that made everyone happy, no Assignment within X-km of a POS (50 was the most common number I saw). Everyone lives, worlds keep spinning.

Arguments about whether it's OP or not aside because that's not what I was arguing against. I'm for a solution, but once again, what they did about it was unnecessary. If my suggested solution was not enough, then you just laid out the alternative and/or supplement to that solution - reverse the changes to drone modules as they affect carriers. Bottom line, nerfing fighter warp was ridiculous. For the record, I agree that it's OP, but the solution was stupid.

And yes, there has indeed been an influx of weaklings, I meet a dozen in game every day when same time last year, I'd be lucky to come across a whiner per three or four systems I traversed. The attitude of many a new player these days is "don't make me do stuff". That's why the game is going themepark with the nerfing of fighter warp and corp awoxing etc. That's exactly why. Because CCP is bending to the will of a new generation of gamers who think the game should be played and thought out for them and have little to no capacity or ability for thinking and doing for themselves. It's the whole reason why games, in general, are losing quality across the board. People are getting soft, squishy and precious, and not just in regards to gaming.

In combination with some tweaking to fighter weapon sig/target sig damage scaling that would have effectively put an end to the impact of skynet on smaller roaming setups without completely destroying fighters in other uses.

As you mentioned skynet was never a thing when fighters struggled to hit anything sub battleship sized - skynet was broken because the combination of tracking enhancement, weapon range and speed possible when a carrier didn't have to use slots for anything but drone upgrade modules meant they could negate almost any degree of pilot skill on the part of the target with the carrier pilot able to make themselves all but immune to repercussion if they weren't lazy and/or stupid. Worst case we should have been looking at fighters losing all bonuses when delegated - an ugly fix but atleast left them somewhat usable outside of skynet.