EVE General Discussion

I've read through the Dev Blog here, http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/back-into-the-structure/, and will say that for the most part the changes sound great. I believe this is the concept they proposed to us years ago, but subsequently shelved because of all the failures they mustered in a short time frame (Monoclegate, greed is good, Dust514, etc).

My concern comes from the very last portion. It states that current structures will essentially be phased out, and no longer function. Does anyone know exactly what will happen to them? Will we essentially have dead sticks everywhere? Will we be able to exchange our multi-billion isk faction towers for new faction structures?

It just kind of seems that destroying trillions of isk in one fell swoop is.... a bad idea any way you look at it. CCP did not really mention any transition plan for the change other than saying current structures will cease to function.

If anyone has a line on this, or if a Dev wants to post a clearer explanation of what happens to our old stuff that would be great.

From the bottom part of the devblog?

TRANSITION PLAN
It is obvious such changes will not come in one release, nor that we are going to alter or remove existing structures without prior and sufficient warning.

As such our plan is to:

• Progressively cut functionalities from existing structures. This would match new structures arrival that provide an overlapping gameplay. For instance, deploying the new Assembly Arrays would cause existing Starbases and Outposts to lose their manufacturing bonuses at first, then their manufacturing capability.
• Give ]ample time for players to evacuate their assets from existing structures and adapt to the changes.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67008/1/Transition2.png

Other then that, no one here has anymore information.

There is however, an official comments thread linked in the devblog too and te devs are actively monitoring and responding to it:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=413728&_ga=1.10685236.106196680.1422569957

If you go to the 'F & I board' on this forum you will find sub-sections where you discuss the various issues regarding the new structures. Or use the comments section on the main structures dev blog. I imagine this OP will be closed soon by the ISD.

On the subject of faction POS modules I would personally advise unanchoring them, selling them on if possible, and replacing them with standard module types. If they haven't already the price of faction modules and ones like the Hyasoda (I've spelt that incorrectly.) labs are probably going to decrease a lot.

The current plans for structures are different to previous fanfest announcements such as the ones for 'the door', ring mining, & modular POSes in that there was never any concrete work visible for them shown to us. They were just possible visions or ideas that will likely never come to pass at least not in those specific formats. The new structure plan on the other is wet concrete in terms of what CCP has in mind and will probably be at least partially implemented later this year.

To Mister Tazinas: CCP did not mention anything about racial towers or POS modules at all at least on the HD stream. Whether anything was mentioned in the roundtables you would have to ask people that are at Fanfest. So this would lead me to believe that there will just be one type of each basic structure in the new plan per size of structure/module. This will mean other changes like removal of POS fuel savings on faction tower usage for example.

I know for a fact we were short-changed on reimbursement for the interfaces a little while ago where supposed current market values. If that method is used to reimburse for faction towers and modules you and others will potentially be royally screwed over.

I made a suggestion for CCP to give us back all the materials - P4 etc - used in production of any structures they are removing and not swapping over for new types rather than a paltry sum of ISK. It does sound like there won't be any exchange of old for new though. But this doesn't help people like you who have potentially purchased expensive faction BPCs in addition to material cost of base or racial POS structures and modules.

I have no interest in buying faction POS stuff now so I have no axe to grind. So I still say it may be best to look to decrease any losses and sell/swap out faction POS modules for standard versions.

CCP, keep our POS fields, its beautiful !!!

If one wants to see the the future they only need to look to the past.

If you like your outpost you can keep it.

As stated above just look to the past to see the future.

Doubt my words? Well then just step into the way-back machine with me. Here we are at the industry revamp announcement. There is much outcry from industrialists about the huge loss in value they are going to take when the surplus of labs flood the market. (Remember when your labs could only run a limited number of jobs). Look, the devs are making assurance that 'something' will be done.

Let's step back into the way-back machine and go forward a few months later. Oh look Crius is on Tranquility now. Let's take a look at the market . Wow, look at all of those dirt cheap Hyasoda labs. Hmmph! What happened? Too bad, so sad capsuleers. Your property is now worth next to nothing.

No refunds. Suck it up.

Watch all pos structures and modules that are in hangers get CCP HAX refined with 100% efficiency to their constituent parts.