Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP has previously indicated that this is a deal breaker in terms of server performance. So I don't think it's in the cards, unfortunately.

CCP has previously been wrong, lied, and/or pulled excuses out of their a*ses.

Someone pointed out in a thread recently...

Watchlist shows HP bars when a fleet member is On-grid....

And Watchlist does NOT show HP bars when a fleet member is Off-grid...

So... the code is there, no excuses.

Links themselves are nice, very nice. I use them regularly.

Where they become imbalanced is when I'm boosting safely from the edge of a tower shield or safed up and decloaking at just the right time.

If ongrid boosting was all that you could do, it would be perfect, it would be balanced just right and you could maybe even at that point look at adding links to ships like destroyers and such. Links are a big SP investment and they should be worth it. Links should be fun to have, and lead to engaging roles, not to sitting in a safespot.

You (and CCP) are overthinking it.

You dont need to "force" links on grid via convoluted mechanisms.

You beacon the things like a cyno so any idiot can warp to them.

So no, you're not changing any code to "force" them on grid and if people want to run off grid they still can. But tell me.....who is going to?

Sitting on a gate is stupiditiy itself, unless you're in high sec.

I'd favour a solution, where ongrid boosts were more potent than offgrid boosts, however, offgrid boosting still worked.

ongrid boosts would be a little less powerful than today (yes, they are still too stronk). offgrid links would be only ~50% as effective as ongrid links.

Further adjustment would be needed ofc, like boosting ships being easily probed out and links not working near POS. The weapons timer thing would also be a neat way to expose boosting ships to danger.

The watchlist code would be perfect for this. Too bad there's a limit to how many you can have on your watchlist.

Seems like it's going to improve congested systems too, big fights, tidi etc.

If I recall correctly from the Command Ship changes (and ensuing talk about OGBs) they want to bring the level a Node can operate on down to a single grid, which improves parallelization and lets them take a massive Null fight that might be all over a single system and split it among multiple servers. I suspect this is one part of the reason behind the Sov capture Node event's design.

This has the happy side-effect of letting them confine boosts to a single Grid instead of everywhere in the system.

I really like the consoidation of links into fewer modules encouraging a combat fit CS, but those numbers are awfully weak. This would effectively cut down WL effectiveness to a tenth. THe boosts that'd give would be unnoticable, and no one would bother with links most of the time.

I mean: +600m disruptrange, +300m webrange, those things make a difference with two scramkiting frigates circling each other, but it's so weak a med neut on the CS might be better else. Armorresists before mindlink go up by 2.5%, yeah.

Seems like all this proposal does is eliminate the chance of multiple ongrid Boosters working together to field all desired links, to a single morale CS carrying all the links that would apply. In any fleet, everywhere. The best though: It wouldn't matter if you fly a CS or a CBC, nothing*1.15 is still nothing.


In my opinion, it would be cool if they were lowering link numbers towards the proposal for specialized links and then introduce T3 links that behave like those, significantly weaker but all-in-one and suitable to be fitted to boosting T3s in the smallest of gangs.

Edit: Overread the scripting part. Now the thing seems very biased towards multiple CS and large fleet setups, essentially saying *no* to the few engaging the many even harder than currently. The idea of generalized and fitting restricted is good, scripting tho is very bad and caters to bigger fleets/gangs by simply not allowing smaller gangs through restrictions to benefit from many scripted links.

I've been into ongrid boosting for a while.