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The Perfect Weapon.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2015-03-23 14:50:04 UTC
I am already a 'god from the machine'. We tend to under-appreciate the sheer destructive ability we would have if Concord allowed us to target planetary populations. Even a reasonably ordinary missile armed cruiser has the ability to volley hundreds of nuclear tipped missiles (or worse!) in minutes.

As I said, the only real difference was the use of the word 'exactitude' - the idea that the weapon would kill only those we intended for it to kill - allowing it's deployment to remove those we regard as deserving of the fate without wiping out whole cities alongside them.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#22 - 2015-03-23 15:02:21 UTC
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
The qualification question is somewhat relative. Most of us aren't qualified for safety scissors. It's never stopped anyone before.

Was I really unclear? What I was getting at was:

"Nobody should have power like that."

Not because we'd set out to use it for bad purposes, but because our wisdom and knowledge are limited.

It's precisely the not stopping anybody that's a problem here.

I'm not even sure it would stop me.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2015-03-23 15:03:42 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I am already a 'god from the machine'. We tend to under-appreciate the sheer destructive ability we would have if Concord allowed us to target planetary populations. Even a reasonably ordinary missile armed cruiser has the ability to volley hundreds of nuclear tipped missiles (or worse!) in minutes.

As I said, the only real difference was the use of the word 'exactitude' - the idea that the weapon would kill only those we intended for it to kill - allowing it's deployment to remove those we regard as deserving of the fate without wiping out whole cities alongside them.

Respectfully, Mr. Tuulinen, there's a big gap between being able to kill lots of people and being able to kill everybody.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2015-03-23 15:55:23 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Respectfully, Mr. Tuulinen, there's a big gap between being able to kill lots of people and being able to kill everybody.


I assumed the use of the words "any number of people" was hyperbole. If it was not, then you're certainly right. I'll have to lean on Astera a bit and find out what in Divinity's Edge she's talking about.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2015-03-23 16:00:14 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Respectfully, Mr. Tuulinen, there's a big gap between being able to kill lots of people and being able to kill everybody.


I assumed the use of the words "any number of people" was hyperbole. If it was not, then you're certainly right. I'll have to lean on Astera a bit and find out what in Divinity's Edge she's talking about.

I did, a little bit.

She seems to have initially thought of it the same as you do, but she didn't try to correct my interpretation or tell me I was taking it too far, either.
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-03-23 16:19:36 UTC
I'd rather the ability to dictate who gets cloned again and who doesn't. Killing my problems is not difficult, keeping them dead...
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#27 - 2015-03-23 16:26:08 UTC
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
The qualification question is somewhat relative. Most of us aren't qualified for safety scissors. It's never stopped anyone before.

Safety scissors trained to V, construction paper V, glue V, glitter and noodles V..... Yeah, I am arts and crafts qualified all around.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Iwan Terpalen
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-03-23 16:39:16 UTC
Have you considered applying to Ushra'Khan?
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2015-03-23 18:02:59 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Respectfully, Mr. Tuulinen, there's a big gap between being able to kill lots of people and being able to kill everybody.


I assumed the use of the words "any number of people" was hyperbole. If it was not, then you're certainly right. I'll have to lean on Astera a bit and find out what in Divinity's Edge she's talking about.

I did, a little bit.

She seems to have initially thought of it the same as you do, but she didn't try to correct my interpretation or tell me I was taking it too far, either.


I have access to levers you, perhaps, do not.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-03-23 18:04:36 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
The qualification question is somewhat relative. Most of us aren't qualified for safety scissors. It's never stopped anyone before.

Safety scissors trained to V, construction paper V, glue V, glitter and noodles V..... Yeah, I am arts and crafts qualified all around.


Excellent skills to construct the traditional Matari paper tigers.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#31 - 2015-03-23 18:42:19 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
The qualification question is somewhat relative. Most of us aren't qualified for safety scissors. It's never stopped anyone before.

Safety scissors trained to V, construction paper V, glue V, glitter and noodles V..... Yeah, I am arts and crafts qualified all around.


Excellent skills to construct the traditional Matari paper tigers.

It's no fun if we ain't gonna fight at our opponent's level.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#32 - 2015-03-23 19:50:11 UTC
The ability to destroy, does not a God make.

When y'all can create stars and planets, and populate them with life, you might then be able to call yourselves small gods.


Destroying things doesn't mean jack.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Bourbon Limoges
Doomheim
#33 - 2015-03-23 20:57:29 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
The ability to destroy, does not a God make.

When y'all can create stars and planets, and populate them with life, you might then be able to call yourselves small gods.


Destroying things doesn't mean jack.


C'est vrai. A virus is more godlike than the gods.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#34 - 2015-03-23 21:59:57 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
The ability to destroy, does not a God make.

When y'all can create stars and planets, and populate them with life, you might then be able to call yourselves small gods.


Destroying things doesn't mean jack.

Can already do this, material requirements are a ***** though, it's not cost effective.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2015-03-23 22:55:56 UTC
I do not think her point was merely about creating... nuclear fusion balls or recode and assemble DNA.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2015-03-24 02:07:34 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
The ability to destroy, does not a God make.

When y'all can create stars and planets, and populate them with life, you might then be able to call yourselves small gods.


Destroying things doesn't mean jack.


Make something out of nothing and violate the laws of conservation of energy and thermodynamics and I might just start worshiping that person.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Kel hound
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-03-24 09:48:56 UTC
Astera Zandraki wrote:
Capsuleers,

If I may have a moment of your time to indulge my curiosity, I have a question for you.

If you possessed a perfect weapon, that is, a weapon that could kill, maim or incapacitate any number of people with utter exactitude, without any risk of collateral damage. what would you use it for?




I wouldnt. I would sell it's services to those who wished to purchase its unique qualities. Priority going to the highest bids of course. The tricky part would be getting attention for one's services, without being noticed outright.
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
#38 - 2015-03-24 10:38:10 UTC
sex

Everything's a game if you make it one - Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci

CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase - Frostys Virpio
Astera Zandraki
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2015-03-24 12:56:31 UTC
The weapon is entirely hypothetical, but it has no limits on range or destructive power. I find it interesting that none of you have stated you would use it for non-lethal purposes, to perhaps incapacitate those on your 'lists'.

Birdsong
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2015-03-24 14:04:23 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
The ability to destroy, does not a God make.

When y'all can create stars and planets, and populate them with life, you might then be able to call yourselves small gods.


Destroying things doesn't mean jack.

Can already do this, material requirements are a ***** though, it's not cost effective.

First sensible thing I've read in a while.
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