Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I feel this is actually necessary at a minimum. Although I feel the structure should have a shield to prevent the bumping like current POS shields although at a much smaller radius. considering undocking / unmooring doesn't allow you to choose the direction your ship is moving there needs to be some safe element to coordinate maneuvers. This is the reason most nullsec alliances place staging POS directly in line with the exit of stations so the fleets can be organized there. Allowing anyone to bump around the structure just gives me nightmares thinking about how many fleets would just have ton's of dedicated bumpers swarming stations. In particular for capitals, given their slow align time it would make unmooring become one of the most annoying experiences with constant bumpers and just a vicious unmoore, bump, remoore, cycle to try to get off the station.

Here is a couple more questions.
1. (non-super) capitals can currently dock in stations and can be stored in CSAA's. Based on the dev blog outposts are being replaced with XL structures and POS features are being replaced with L structures. Am i to assume that under the new system dreads/ carriers will now be MOORED while attached to L structures and will only be storable (unviewable) in XL structures?

2. While ships are moored, will there be any option to swap pilots as with CSAA's or will they be the essentially docked? I ask because in WH space capitals are usually shared among the corp capital pilots. It would be very detrimental to WH operations if there is no way to share capital ships given how few are usually available. If this is the case there should be an option to "moore for self" or "moore for corp"

3. What benefit is there to mooring capitals/ supers to structures? Under the mechanics from the blog, when a structure is destroyed all moored ships become available for grabs for anyone. If this is the case as a capital pilot why would I ever moore my ship when i log off? For example lets say I am a carrier pilot. If I log off while Moored to a structure I run the risk of loosing my carrier while i'm away on a vacation/ trip etc. or anything I could be gone for more than a few days. Comparatively, I could just log off in my carrier.I may warp into a safe point in space and be scan-able, but at least then I don't have to worry about my expensive ship just being gone when i log back in.

I don't see having to work in order to gather more accurate intelligence to be a problem.

there is going to be a lot of new intel given and a lot removed if you do live in WH space then you should be one of the best adapters in eve and yes we will adapt

This conversation is almost impossible to have given the changes coming to sov and POS warfare without information on on the new role of caps or supers.

In a few months, we've been told structure shooting will be all but gone. This leaves a huge role vacuum for capitals and supers, and whatever new roles they find themselves in will heavily impact the balance of any kind of mooring system.

To put it directly: A year from now I don't know why an alliance will need to own caps/supers or in what situation they will need to deploy or obscure their caps/super fleet. That makes it very hard to comment on the mechanic surrounding owning/storing/deploying such a fleet.

I want to talk about accessibility.


I posted this in the devblog thread, but I'm putting it here too because THIS IS WHAT I WANT.


I want to be able to launch a large platform for use for myself and my alts. No corp members, no alliance members, just me. I want to be able to set it to use my personal standings to grant access to not just moor/dock, but access stuff inside. Since I only have my personal alts set to +10, only my alts in subcaps could dock, my super can be moored, and I can generally store any shared ships/mods in its own dedicated safespot platform in our staging system.

I'd also like standings or even just a list of characters be used to allow people to warp to my structures without needing a bookmark or having to scan it down. Like stations or other celestial. Anybody NOT on my happy list would have to either acquire a bookmark/warpin, or break out combat probes and scan that **** down themselves.







Their plan is probably just to introduce stuff and expect you guys to run with it beyond their wildest dreams.

It's one of the options we're currently thinking about.

That doesn't do a lot for someone bubbled unless they can re-moor in that timeframe.

i dont want to sound like a douce to anyone here but.... cant we curently store titans and supers in the xtra large ship maintenance array? isent that kinda the same as docking? noone can see that there is a titan hiden in that ship maintenance array you know.

A common issue with mooring and supercaps in general is the risk/reward aspect. Any game mechanic must be careful not to make these ships invulnerable, but at the same time the risk can't be so high that no one uses the feature at all. The current mechanics with XLSMAs fall foul of this, people rarely dare to store anything in them for any real duration thanks to issues with corp roles and relatively short reinforcement timers.

What if the risk was that instead of losing the ship, you simply lost the ability to use it for a period of time?

Let's say a Nyx is moored at a structure, allowing the pilot to enjoy the use of ships other than a space coffin. An opposing alliance attacks and manages to destroy the structure before the owner can return to it. Instead of giving away such a valuable prize and the owner losing everything, the Nyx activates an automated security system*.
On destruction of the attached structure the ship automatically overcharges and activates its jump drive (ignoring any nearby bubbles) and vanishes to a safe location. Of course finding a safe location and re-establishing contact with the proper owner is risky, and may take time (possibly several days). In order to board the ship again the owner has to wait a random period, then perform some kind of mini-quest to locate his auto-piloted hull. Once found, there would be a short vulnerability period (likely a minute or two) as the vessel repairs and re-calibrates itself from the emergency jump. Once this is successfully completed, the ship can be used again as normal.

This introduces a small element of risk to losing structures, without the all-or-nothing aspect for people with 100bn isk hulls. The attacker denies the owner use of a powerful ship for a period of time, and has an opportunity to kill it if they pay very careful attention to the area later. The owner has a decent chance to get their ship back in the event of a disaster, especially if they have friends to help recover it.

Edit: the same mechanic can be used against corp thefts. If a mooring structure is tampered with for whatever reason (perhaps the owning corp wants to pull it down, perhaps someone is misusing their roles), the ship activates its security system in the same way. This gives some peace of mind for the owner.

*if affordable cars can have security systems to prevent theft, why can't futuristic space flagships?

a titan is 155m m3? hm the avatar is. the erebus is 145m m3 the leviathan is 132m m3 and the ragnarök is 100m m3. and what do you mean with broadcast?