Player Features and Ideas Discussion

With the inclusion of new AI for the drifters which allows them to persue a pilot, or even apparently call in reinforcements I propose (via people on Twitter) a horde mode mission.

The idea is simple. You warp your ship in to a group of low level frigates. You blap them, another wave spawns... based on what you used to kill the first wave, the waves keep increasing in difficulty and numbers until a player either bails, or dies.

This could be used to scale up in groups, the more players on grid, the more NPCs warp in as reinforcement. NPCs could even drop a carrier on the players for logistical or offensive support.

During a wave warpouts would not be possible (a warp scrambler effect on everything on grid) this would make each wave an all or nothing affair.

Rewards would be LP and ISK linked to the number you kill. Loot drops would scale increasing in value. You only receive the reward if you are able to warp out and dock up. If you die, you get nothing.

To reduce the farmability of these missions they would be storyline style missions (one in every 16 normal missions)

That's exactly the point :)
I'm tired of warping around from L4 to L4.

I remember this being a thing long, long ago.

I believe it was a static DED complex. And people farmed it for HOURS in perma-RRing Dominixes and or Ishtars (this is where "tinker tanks" became a thing too).

CCP didn't like this because there was simply no possible way to stop people from excessively farming indefinitely (did you know there are NPCs outside of Drifters that deal 20k volleys?).

Hey, i'm just throwing an idea out there.

Every content is going to be farmable - it just needs to be worked in such a way to reduce it. There are many smarter players out there who can suggest a fix

unprobable tengu says hi (edit: well now hard to find to be accurate) .....talons, eccm, sensor backup array and sub skill 5 with dissolution. It makes gurista where I don't even bother to worry about trigger rats sequences. I shoot everything and let God sort it out. I want them all there in fact...line em up, knock em down. ATM missions are what they are to me. I see jams once in blue moon.



TP a pain but said tengu low sig to start. And speed tanks nice. AE I don't sweat much.

Serp blockade is a joke mission. Rush the rats, kill the rats. I actually blitzed this calling on almost every wave at once. Only wave I wiped was the first one. Was too many for my comfort levels. now waves 2 through what 5?......bring it to get the trigger bs rat spawned faster and call her done if motivated.

To cater to small crews these would need less than a 10 man sign up. I was in real player corps where 10 people never on at same time. Or spread out. CCP gave the mass fleet pve need setup. Incursions. Also if you want to be nitpicky I can scare up a few friends and with 2-3 alts between us farm.

You see Its not only solo farming you have to worry about, it can be the couple buddies farmers This for example was how havens and sanctums and higher end ca's were farmed before carrier ratting became a thing. Same with 10 DED's. 3 buddies who knew the system and if when the good stuff dropped the gentlemans agreement richest guy would pay out the other 2 from his wallet and get his cut on sale.


Broken record...incursions are cop's only real success story for mass player hard as hell to farm pve. Why? it nerfs an entire system (and harder rats) so you need the numbers. Key here is system wide nerfing of ship stats. Feed hard rats but my ship is still uber....nom nom nom is all I can say.