Ships & Modules

Currently, the Rattlesnake is the cheapest faction BS. This is because IMO, it is generally inferior to other faction battleships.... heck, a Domi out DPS's it.

It has only 4 launchers with no damage bonus.
The velocity bonus is wasted on Cruise missiles- they already have plenty of range, and suck against the small targets where a velocity bonus might be needed

The extension of trop range is a more usable bonus, but you are still left with just 4 torp launchers with no damage bonus

I suggest changing the 50% crusie and torp velocity bonus to a 50% torp and cruise damage bonus (I was thinking +100% like the nightmare's 4 guns, or the 4 weapons or marauders, but then when the drones are factored in, it would probably be OP'd).

This gives it the equivalent of 6 unbonused launchers, which would make it competitive in DPS with a Domi which has 6 damage bonused guns.

Right now a Rattler vs a Navy domi just doesn't seem worth it unless you want an über tank afk ship (and designing a ship to work AFK, especially an expensive pirate ship, is lame IMO).
Same drone bay and drone bonuses.
Significantly Inferior damage from high slots
Superior tank, although tank is not limiting on either ship for lvl 4 PvE.


I'm guessing 4 cruise launchers with a +50% damage boost will out DPS 4 torp launchers, giving it superior DPS and damage projection over a torp rattler in its current incarnation.
And of course, you could still fit torps for even more DPS if you are willing to get even closer.

No.

Sure its cheap and doesnt have a lot of dps but its still a great ship that is commonly used because of its great ability to tank and afk power.
There are other ships in bigger need of change.

So you want to give it DPS yet keep its tank intact.

Do you have a few Rattlers up on contract that aren't shifting?

Should we really have ships seemingly designed to be flown AFK?
We already have mining barges after all



No more of buyers remorse, i bought one, but I find its tank way more than needed, and its DPS makes doing missions without going AFK excruciatingly slow. I think I'd have rather bought a Navy Domi.

So you buy a ship that is known to be low dps and high tank and now want to change it? Next time take more time researching what you want. I see something of a trend.

I like my Rattler alot, but only for certain missions, my tactic for lvl 4 missions is I fly close enough for torps then drop sentry drone (mission specific), then go bombing with torps, I can kill BS within 2 vollys most of the time while drones take out cruisers with ease, very quickly in fact, of couse kill the frigs first with smaller drones (mission specific) before you enter torp range, I have an active shield tank, but otherwise if rats run away, as some do, get webber drone on it, however in those missions I just use scorp navy issue with cruisers...running away is no problem then, an example of a mission would be Vengence, the named BS have a very hard tank, I could not get it to die for hours i tried different fits on BC, BS, finnaly I tried the rattler with a webber drone, that named rat BS went down in 30 sec...the ship is fine but it is skill intensive with drones being the most, torp skills being the next skill.

I can get 1127 dps from a rattler, funnily enough, like almost every other ship, you have to sacrafice tank to do it. You can't expect one of the best tanking BS's to also have great dps

^ this

I bought it, knowing it was a really tanky BS, and that it wouldn't be very vulnerable to Ewar because of drones and FoF missiles.
I have since come to realize that I really don't care for flying it because it does missions so slowly, it sucks for incursions, and I don't want to take something that expensive (granted it is *relatively* cheap for a Pirate BS, it is still a pirate BS and outside my PvP budget) into areas where PvP is likely.

The result is it sits in my hangar, or I launch drones and go afk (only on certain missions).

I can't really find a non-AFK use for it, except for maybe the lvl 4 "blockade" missions, where launching FoF missiles may be preferable to using guns when I can actually lock something.
Although even on these missions, I'm still semi-AFK.

Not sure anyone is pissing on it. Just....why? Scorpion already does the job and does it well. And it does it for basically peanuts compared to the price of a faction battleship. Ewar and missles. Did you miss the boat listed in the market?

So you want an ewar/missle pirate boat? Again..why? Cause you bought a rattler? Lest face it. The thing has a crazy tank and some drones. If you were looking for high dps also, well then. I guess a little bit of research would have gone a long way. Buyers remorse or some hair brained idea that we need more ECM ships in this game (really? MORE ECM!!!) sure make me think you all are utterly clueless.