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Calling All EVE Online Filmmakers: Show What Makes EVE Unique!

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#61 - 2014-12-15 11:19:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Primary This Rifter
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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#62 - 2014-12-24 20:42:10 UTC
Very important question:

It says I can't use "copyrighted" music.

Is this a shortcut for saying "you can't steal music" or does it literally mean music that is in anyway copyrighted material?

For instance, can I use music for which I own licensing rights? If I have previously produced and copyrighted my own music, can I use it? If I produce a cover or reorchestration of a song, including a CCP song, can I use it?

I'm only asking because the example given for this bullet point leads me to believe it was just legal shorthand.

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Solecist Project
#63 - 2015-01-13 17:48:15 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
Very important question:

It says I can't use "copyrighted" music.

Is this a shortcut for saying "you can't steal music" or does it literally mean music that is in anyway copyrighted material?

For instance, can I use music for which I own licensing rights? If I have previously produced and copyrighted my own music, can I use it? If I produce a cover or reorchestration of a song, including a CCP song, can I use it?

I'm only asking because the example given for this bullet point leads me to believe it was just legal shorthand.

I'll take a good guess.

Rights are an issue. Even if you own the rights,
what happens if you change your mind?
What happens when someone else owns the rights?
As there are many possibilities, they simply don't allow any music that is copyrighted.

Think about it. You do something and in five years they use it extensively ...
... and then you come with open hands, trying to collect.

Example, but the point is clear ... no copyrighted music at all.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Pietro Vitale
Better Off Red
Unspoken Alliance.
#64 - 2015-01-19 16:38:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Pietro Vitale
CCP Falcon wrote:
  • A link to download your video must be submitted to share@eveonline.com between December 5, 2014 and February 20,
    • 2015 and contain the text “This is EVE video submission” in the subject line.

    Can someone please recommend the best way to do this? I don't see an obvious download link on Youtube. What's the easiest way to provide a download for a large video file? I would hate to get disqualified because I didn't submit in the correct format. Roll

    CCP Falcon wrote:
  • All videos must end with credits that include the real and in-game names for everyone who helped create the trailer.
    • Still hoping for clarification on this. I don't mind submitting RL names to CCP with the video but I don't see why they need to be in the credits. Can we put it at the very end of the credits so you can crop it out before airing? I think most people don't want their identity broadcast...
    Lirya Sertan
    Lazer Unicorns
    #65 - 2015-01-29 15:36:48 UTC
    CCP Falcon wrote:
    Please note all of the real and in-game names of those who helped with your video in the submission video.


    Does this mean that everyone helping with the video must have an Eve Online character? Some friends of mine are excited to help out in post but don't play Eve Onine.
    Idoru Yoshikawa
    Republic Military School
    Minmatar Republic
    #66 - 2015-02-04 11:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Idoru Yoshikawa
    CCP Falcon wrote:
    By now you've probably seen the “This is EVE (2014)” trailer that we published a couple weeks ago, but if not, go check out the uncensored version on our YouTube page. Our goal for “This is EVE” was to show what it actually feels like to play EVE Online, by showcasing real players doing real things in the game. Judging by the number of views the trailer has received on YouTube, the reaction has been amazing.


    Yes, because you did an awesome work and the film is amazing. My most sincere congratulations (really). But...


    CCP Falcon wrote:
    Now we’d like you to show us, and the rest of the world, what you think makes EVE Online unique.


    Please, give us some help by releasing a Filmmaker feature beyond the Advanced Camera that allow us to film what we experience in the same way you did in "This is EVE" .


    Presidente Gallente wrote:
    If we just had a decent, script based Battle Recorder to create post-cinematics from different camera perspectives (like what CCP is doing), then CCP would get a lot of epic promotion material. For free..

    If we had the option to record all action into a script for a playback with the EVE engine with great camera features we would have endless and fantastic possibilities to present intense battles from complete new and different perspectives. Filmmakers would be able to edit never seen before videos of real action of a video game and maybe it all can be rendered in a much better quality. This would be something completely new in the game industry and attract many people with passion for film making.


    Couldn't agree more. I'm a professional filmmaker and I fapped reading your post.

    Using "This is EVE" as an example for this campaign feels like "Look at my Titan. Nice uh? Now go doomsday somebody in your Rifter"

    Now some from my own cellar. I will draw my plot using two very basic and simple points.

    1. We live in the world of the Social Media where audiovisual content is the trade good. People pays for content. People goes where the content is.

    2. Outside EVE universe, EVE Online is known for being a hardcore game dominated by spreadsheets. No multimedia content is associated to this game outside the inner circle of EVE (10 fps twich streams with awful banners all around, frapsed videos with overwhelming interfaces, okay). There's nothing to see for anybody outside the EVE world. Keep walking.

    But is that true? How comes then that I can spend minutes watching the glares of the sun reflecting in my ship? How comes we are all amazed at the explosions, colors, movements and sounds EVE universe has to offer? The problem is there is no way the players can share this moments in a easy way. What their true experiences are in EVE is far distant from what is shared. To reach a decent result when trying to share this experience is annoying and It's difficult.

    1 and 2 means: give the players a filmmaking tool and you will have thousands of people making films that will pale Star Wars. Then you will have thousands of new potential players willing to play that game where you can make those outstanding space battle films and share them whatever the social media you use.

    Am I dreaming? Am I delusional? well, that's the base of the filmmaking. Dream and make dreams true.

    However, in the meanwhile I will do my best and keep frapsing. But it just sucks to imagine what it could be Blink
    Lord Maldoror
    Fairlight Corp
    Rooks and Kings
    #67 - 2015-02-09 04:59:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Maldoror
    Presidente Gallente wrote:
    If we just had a decent, script based Battle Recorder to create post-cinematics from different camera perspectives (like what CCP is doing), then CCP would get a lot of epic promotion material. For free..

    If we had the option to record all action into a script for a playback with the EVE engine with great camera features we would have endless and fantastic possibilities to present intense battles from complete new and different perspectives. Filmmakers would be able to edit never seen before videos of real action of a video game and maybe it all can be rendered in a much better quality. This would be something completely new in the game industry and attract many people with passion for film making.



    I think it's important to distinguish between a cinematic editor for creating scenes (such as Jessica or the recent developments with Eve Probe) and a "Battle Recorder".

    A game like Counter-Strike. or even World of Tanks, is essentially sport. A game of football or a motor race lends itself well to endless replays, to be carefully discussed, studied and enjoyed.

    Eve is an open world sandbox that benefits from the 'Fog of War'. Information is power and it's important that people have to work for that information. I'm not sure I'd like anyone to be able to record everything on a grid and play it back at their leisure.

    Positioning on a grid is vital to strategy. Not every Fraps recording will show you exactly where a dictor was before it cloaked or which ship from a tightly knit group dropped a cyno. From overview ranges you can extrapolate some information about the spatial positioning of a hostile fleet but never to the same extent as being able to pan around them at your leisure.

    There is - and should always be - a huge difference between what two different players interpret from what they 'see' (and thus what they record). Doing a "look at" at the right ship at the right time can tell you a huge amount about an emergent strategy or tactic. My best scout should not be interchangeable with my worst. Otherwise they would not need to even be present at all and we could just send recorded replay files to them after the event.

    An integral aspect on which the Eve-Is-Real motif hinges is to be able to say, "I was there, this is what I saw".



    PS. As regards this competition, and as already mentioned elsewhere in the thread, there is no RnK entry (a variety of things in the terms and conditions raise issues) but you can expect more material, as usual, in the coming months. Generally speaking, it's great to see CCP putting a focus on the emergent gameplay of their universe. While you have to work to find them, the experiences on offer in New Eden are good enough for the game to sell itself. I have no doubt the competition will yield some fine examples.

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    l0rd carlos
    the king asked me to guard the mountain
    #68 - 2015-02-10 07:51:14 UTC
    Is music with CC BY-NC 4.0 allowed? Or only CC BY 4.0?

    Are we allowed to use Sisi footage? Or does it have to be all 100% TQ recordings with no re-enacted scenes?

    Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos
    Krops Vont
    #69 - 2015-02-12 03:09:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Krops Vont
    CCP Falcon wrote:
  • All videos must end with credits that include the real and in-game names for everyone who helped create the trailer.

    • Does this mean any video used such as players inside bombers bar, the uploader johnny pew, or old videos of titans blown up and list the video as credits? "Help create trailer" meaning anyone in video editing, video submission, or character help in TQ/SISI?

    Arrow Don't suppose you could put All V on SISI so people limited to some ships trying this cant carry out their venture?

    CCP Falcon wrote:
  • Please note all of the real and in-game names of those who helped with your video in the submission video.

    • People who don not want their real name but still help?

    I have a few friends who do not play eve and want to help in audio. Shall they create eve characters for prizes or just their names shall be good?

    CCP Falcon wrote:
  • Otherwise, however, you cannot use copyrighted video or music from anyone. Period. No Metallica or Lamb of God background music. No Star Wars video spliced in.

    • Please be more specific with this. I want to use a track that has literally no trace on the internet that I got years ago. I'm afraid to even use this without lashback.

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    Krops Vont
    #70 - 2015-02-13 21:37:48 UTC
    Bump...

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    Delt0r Garsk
    Shits N Giggles
    #71 - 2015-02-16 13:28:39 UTC
    Krops Vont wrote:
    Bump...

    They have not posted a single offical reply once since the original post. They are not going to start now.

    either fanfest is keeping them too busy, or this was a sort of on the side thing that got forgotten.

    AKA the scientist.

    Death and Glory!

    Well fun is also good.
    Norrin Zelkarr
    WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
    WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
    #72 - 2015-02-21 12:26:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Norrin Zelkarr
    Now that the deadline has come and gone...post your entries!
    Here's mine!
    2Sonas1Cup
    #73 - 2015-02-21 15:47:08 UTC  |  Edited by: 2Sonas1Cup
    Three one-year subscriptions to Adobe Creative Cloud Complete
    Sponsored, free for CCP

    100 PLEX
    Give isks to someone, digital pixels, free for CCP

    Three copies of EVE: The Second Decade Collector’s Edition signed by the EVE Online development team
    A book. £5 manufacturing object.


    So basically, CCP is paying £30 (6 books with images) for massive advertising through social networking + free video which they will massively profit from more advertising and marketing which will provide more social networking and hype about eve for the next couple months.

    Sounds like a good deal to me.


    Certainly better than pay for proper video professionals plus creative people with ideas plus advertisement agents, and still stay behind on the social networking.


    I wouldn't do this unless I'm paid CASH.


    TL;DR: My creativity + my time + my ideas + my knowledge are worth a LOT more than £5


    @CCP Why not make the prizes a sum of money instead?

    100 plexes become £2000
    50 plexes become £1000
    25 plexes become £500

    Then MAYBE I would consider in participating.
    Jack Xristeu
    Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
    Silent Company
    #74 - 2015-02-21 23:27:43 UTC
    recommended video software for recording?

    Too late for this year, but I would like to give this a shot for next year.
    mydingaling
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #75 - 2015-02-22 02:12:12 UTC  |  Edited by: mydingaling
    CCP you really need to not be so tight.

    Plex cost you nothing to produce. There should have been a prize of 1 plex each for the next top 100-200 entries. The majority of people will not participate in this competition because they know they are never going to compete with the talent of some gaming video producers out there not to mention the difference between available potential footage from being in a massive or elite space corp. A great deal of your player base know they have absolutely no chance to get 1st, 2nd or 3rd but they might have a shot at that top few hundred and earn a plex which is enough incentive to give it a go. It is the same with the tournament, for the majority of us its the moment we get to watch the 1% get adorned with exclusive gifts we will never see in our lifetimes, how exciting.

    Most of us remember back when the learning skills were changed and we got those bonus skill points which meant you could finally nail some level 5 you just could never bring yourself to train. That was f*n awesome. Seeing that mechanism was put was exciting because it meant it was possible for you to bestow skill point gifts. I was sure you were going to throw some out there sometimes. I had been waiting for it but as big events and opportunities rolled by I realised that it was never going to happen. There is no reason you couldn't randomly give a gift of x number of skill points to each account at Christmas or just f*n randomly because its a cool thing to do and your players would love it. How many of us used to 'train a long skill' during patches just in case that urban legend type moment happened where we logged back in and the training was complete. But it never happened, you really should have just done that sometimes. I understand that it would be bad to give too much but you are a long long way from that.

    TLDR: frugality is opportunity lost considering the cost to you of the gifts you have available to bestow.
    Krops Vont
    #76 - 2015-02-22 04:01:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Krops Vont
    Norrin Zelkarr wrote:
    Now that the deadline has come and gone...post your entries!
    Here's mine!


    Edit: Don't look if you want to see them at fanfest.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHrKW3VO_nQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHWLRiWKsdc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhVk2gWIgxM

    I made 2 and a half :D

    I don't care about prizes (But they are nice if I do win). The chance to get my stuff out there and featured even at fanfest is my dream.

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    Primary This Rifter
    Mutual Fund of the Something
    #77 - 2015-02-25 00:05:33 UTC
    mydingaling wrote:
    CCP you really need to not be so tight.

    Plex cost you nothing to produce.

    That's not really true, though.
    If CCP creates a PLEX for free, that's a PLEX that wasn't paid for with the real $ value of PLEX. It's a lost opportunity cost.
    Norrin Zelkarr
    WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
    WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
    #78 - 2015-03-19 23:35:31 UTC
    Can one of the devs post here and let us know who the top 3 winners were? Not able to attend Fanfest. :/
    Alt Two
    Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
    #79 - 2015-03-19 23:59:11 UTC
    Norrin Zelkarr wrote:
    Can one of the devs post here and let us know who the top 3 winners were? Not able to attend Fanfest. :/

    The winner was a poorly made Korean copy of CCP's own "This is EVE". But I guess that is to be expected of asians. Cheap knockoffs.

    And CCP is selling out and trying to attract asian players, so no surprise that it won really.
    Da'iel Zehn
    Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
    #80 - 2015-03-20 19:43:02 UTC
    Here was my entry.

    Youtube Link

    Of course, it was inspired by real events in game etc. \0/

    Smile