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Allow new characters to insta-join player corps

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Diggle Dirker
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-03-19 10:41:44 UTC
Apparently there's a problem with players remaining in NPC corps, "leveling up their Raven", not engaging with the player corp sandbox, getting bored and quitting. So how about this: give player corps the option to allow new characters (under 30 days old?) or perhaps characters on new accounts, to press a big fat JOIN button and bam, they're in a player corp.

Make the corp selection process part of the so-called new player experience. Allow players to form a basic idea of what they want to do in EVE (what they want to do will probably change over time, but we need to get them started) either via the tutorial or a short in-game "What kind of capsuleer do you want to be?" questionnaire, and then allow them to instantly join a relevant player corp. Start them off without a corp, but make it impossible to progress beyond a certain point without joining one. Make NPC corps seem like the "If you really can't make up your mind, just join the NPC corp until you've decided" option.

There would have to be some restrictions and safety measures in place, but overall I don't see why this would be a bad thing to implement.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#2 - 2015-03-19 11:29:02 UTC
This would not only depends on having corps willing to allow that kind of instant membership but also on how they treat these new members. Some corps see newbies as a resource to be cultivated and others tend to harvest them for killmails or have huge taxes turning them into short term cash cows.

I can see this as being very exploitable and might well put more new players off EvE then encourage them depending on who they end up with.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2015-03-19 11:43:20 UTC
oh I need a spy in that alliance. Bam I have one....


not gonna happen
Diggle Dirker
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-03-19 12:57:20 UTC
Samillian wrote:
This would not only depends on having corps willing to allow that kind of instant membership but also on how they treat these new members. Some corps see newbies as a resource to be cultivated and others tend to harvest them for killmails or have huge taxes turning them into short term cash cows.

I can see this as being very exploitable and might well put more new players off EvE then encourage them depending on who they end up with.


If there was a dearth of corps willing to enable the option then players could just join the NPC corp.

It is potentially exploitable but perhaps someone could come up with some safety measures to protect the newbs.

As for it being an easy way to insert spies, corps could simply not enable the insta-join option. And at any rate, it's already relatively easy to insert a spy.
Sal Askiras
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-03-19 13:13:21 UTC
Here we go, another "I can't war-dec NPC corps, so people need to be removed from them!" post.

-1.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#6 - 2015-03-19 13:51:24 UTC
itd also have to be other 30 days because that would make it so you don't have a corp full of trials

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2015-03-19 16:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Diggle Dirker wrote:


It is potentially exploitable but perhaps someone could come up with some safety measures to protect the newbs.



the fewer of these eve has the better if your idea needs them to work its a bad idea


besides that there are already a load of corps out there thay accept anyone and that was b4 they nerffed awoxing so its not hard for a new player to just open the recruitment page and start sending out aplications
Juan Mileghere
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#8 - 2015-03-19 16:55:13 UTC
Ever hear the expression can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink?
Diggle Dirker
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-03-19 21:31:39 UTC
Sal Askiras wrote:
Here we go, another "I can't war-dec NPC corps, so people need to be removed from them!" post.

-1.


Wut?? If you check my short post history you'll see I actually prefer being in an NPC corp.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-03-19 22:11:56 UTC
Diggle Dirker wrote:
Apparently there's a problem with players remaining in NPC corps, "leveling up their Raven", not engaging with the player corp sandbox, getting bored \.




pssst.....you get this effect with joining player corps too chief. I am a bitter jaded vet of a few 0.0 corps/alliances on the combat char. Once you strip away the caod crap its all SSDD. Goon (pet), NC (pet), etc(pet)....its all the same really. Been there....same crap just the name of the crew changes really.


I actually left eve for a bit after 2 years of player corps....it was making my own sandbox in my own 1 man player corp that had me like eve again when I came back.