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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#21 - 2015-03-18 04:32:43 UTC
Looks decent to me. It's like a blocky version of the Bird of Prey from Star Trek.

I dunno why the Griffin hasn't been redone yet. Look at that mess. But I guess it's not a particularly widely-used hull.

And why hasn't the Breacher model been replaced with an edited Hound model? Just you know, replace the torp boxes with some other structure, and give it a plain brown paint job. Maybe remove those silly tendons attached to the cockpit. That would look pretty sweet.
Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-03-18 05:25:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Chenguang Hucel-Ge
If we are talking about Caldari ships, the one that needs to be tweaked (NOT completely redesigned!) is Hookbill. Because boy, that engine housing looks like somebody rammed a funnel into it, ready to give that birdie a full load of... I'll leave this to your imagination.
Claud Tiberius
#23 - 2015-03-18 06:03:53 UTC
Osprey

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
V1P3RR
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2015-03-18 06:13:11 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
HUGE NECESSITIES:


Button in esc menu that allows you to 'go back to WoW'

Fixing 8-bit textures on older hulls

Giving UaE your stuff


NOT HUGE NECESSITIES:

Caracal redesign.



^ agreed!
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
#25 - 2015-03-18 06:21:37 UTC
Ronkus Adoudel wrote:
looks so ugly compared to any other ship, i dont know, it just looks weird

you want something really ugly?

old moa

also bantam

Everything's a game if you make it one - Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci

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Vyl Vit
#26 - 2015-03-18 07:11:13 UTC
Ronkus Adoudel wrote:
th two bent wings and the nose looks odd, for me it looks like its time to hit the copy paper and paint something symmetric :D
It is symmetric. And, spaceships don't have wings, since they don't fly. Flying involves airfoils (wings) and of course, air. There is no air in space.

I think the Caracal is one of the more attractive ship designs in the game. I guess we differ.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#27 - 2015-03-18 10:04:42 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
HUGE NECESSITIES:

Sov redesign

POS redesign

T3 rebalance

Capital rebalance

Rorqual repurposing

Button in esc menu that allows you to 'go back to WoW'

Fixing 8-bit textures on older hulls

Giving UaE your stuff


NOT HUGE NECESSITIES:

Caracal redesign.


Have another like UAE.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Trajan Unknown
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-03-18 10:13:44 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Redesign in what way?

Details! Roll

EdIt: It is not ugly! Now you have hurt its feelings! Apologise!



I´d like to second that, the caracal is a gorgeous ship or handsome depending on how you define your ships "gender". :D
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#29 - 2015-03-18 11:56:16 UTC
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Don't touch the floating dead body. One of the truly unique hulls in Eve.


Really?

http://i.imgur.com/akQ3fHq.jpg
Serene Repose
#30 - 2015-03-18 12:33:48 UTC
I'm a big fan of the Button Back to WoW idea. Could we get these installed in the Officer's Quarters?
Just make it the button next to the exit door. Label it "open".

TYVM. Have a nice day!Big smile

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#31 - 2015-03-18 12:44:26 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Ronkus Adoudel wrote:
th two bent wings and the nose looks odd, for me it looks like its time to hit the copy paper and paint something symmetric :D

Oh god...please don't bring up symmetry. Just stop, before every Caldari apologist with a hardon for "my kid designed this ship with legos" aesthetics comes in here.


no just adults did with legos, the small ones and not the huge building blocks.
I like caldari ships, and how the caracal is designed and looks, it could take hits to the side and not sustain critical damage.
no one ask why a lot of starships in startrek aren't all piece, or why tie-fighters have the side wings that serve no use with as this as they are.

the carcal uses the bent arms it has for weapon mounts and side side structure for defense purposes (if the game had some real physics for damage)

I keep meaning to buy a Cerberus *marks that's down in his notes*

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Khelar Udan
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#32 - 2015-03-18 15:20:56 UTC
The Caracal looks pretty good in my opinion. I like the look of most of the Caldari ships though. Even if it looked ass ugly it isn't a huge priority. Rebalancing and creating content should always be a priority.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-03-18 17:43:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Elenahina
ITT: People who don't understand the art team and the developers are not the same people.

Edit: Leave the Caracal alone. #savethespacecat

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#34 - 2015-03-18 17:50:17 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Don't touch the floating dead body. One of the truly unique hulls in Eve.


Really?

http://i.imgur.com/akQ3fHq.jpg



Unique in reference to Eve hulls. Also it doesn't look all that much like the picture either.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#35 - 2015-03-18 18:11:04 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
HUGE NECESSITIES:

Sov redesign

POS redesign

T3 rebalance

Capital rebalance

Rorqual repurposing

Button in esc menu that allows you to 'go back to WoW'

Fixing 8-bit textures on older hulls

Giving UaE your stuff


NOT HUGE NECESSITIES:

Caracal redesign.


HUGER NECESSITIES:

Blops Revamp - they don't bite enough

Sov 2.0 - the way it was actually proposed, and not the slippery slope it actually became

Bring back being able to reduce an attribute to 10>

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#36 - 2015-03-18 18:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Unezka Turigahl
Harrison Tato wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Don't touch the floating dead body. One of the truly unique hulls in Eve.


Really?

http://i.imgur.com/akQ3fHq.jpg


Klingon ships give the Thorax hulls some fierce competition. Everyone always says the Thorax looks like a dingdong but it doesn't even have a peehole like the Klingon ship.

Who owns Star Trek? Paramount? Why haven't they developed a plastic wrap product called Kling-on yet?
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#37 - 2015-03-18 18:29:29 UTC
But it is already symmetrical!
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2015-03-18 18:49:42 UTC
Black Panpher wrote:
But it is already symmetrical!


He wants front to back symmetry. What?
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#39 - 2015-03-18 19:07:21 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Ronkus Adoudel wrote:
th two bent wings and the nose looks odd, for me it looks like its time to hit the copy paper and paint something symmetric :D

Oh god...please don't bring up symmetry. Just stop, before every Caldari apologist with a hardon for "my kid designed this ship with legos" aesthetics comes in here.


no just adults did with legos, the small ones and not the huge building blocks.
I like caldari ships, and how the caracal is designed and looks, it could take hits to the side and not sustain critical damage.
no one ask why a lot of starships in startrek aren't all piece, or why tie-fighters have the side wings that serve no use with as this as they are.

the carcal uses the bent arms it has for weapon mounts and side side structure for defense purposes (if the game had some real physics for damage)

I keep meaning to buy a Cerberus *marks that's down in his notes*



Um... TIE Fighter wings are large radiator panels needed for the special ion engine used in the ship. The design was crafter to reduce the front to back cross section, increasing the difficulty to hit the ship. The drawback is that they are vulnerable to side attacks.
Kamahl Daikun
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-03-18 19:19:17 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
No, not really.

Why a HUGE NECESSITY?


Aesthetically speaking, which is purely subjective, it just doesn't seem to stand out from other Caldari hulls. A ship like the Hookbill and Blackbird seem like unique hull designs. The Caracal looks like (and forgive me for saying this) a small version of the Klingon Bird of Prey.

As for how the ship fits and performs, I find it pretty dull. The Caracal and Navy Caracal typically fit RLMLs and an optional buffer. I've used the Caracal many times for troll-fits - Filling mids with ASBs, massive buffer, heavy active tank, etc.
However, the Caracal only seems to perform on Frigates. The Cerberus, however, seems to just be a Caracal with massive HAM Range and awesome cap stats.


I don't argue that the Caracal is a great hull but it just doesn't seem to have any flare to it. Then again, I don't find most Caldari hulls to stand out anyway.