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just dreaming here...

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Johnny Jinks
Finnerwamkoomen
#1 - 2015-03-17 19:33:01 UTC


so i was thinking that it would be super cool (and also a huge amount of work) to have some sort of in game recording with the ability to still use the interface while watching said recording. much like a free cam or player view switching in an FPS recording.

I watch videos of fights occasionally and i always find myself trying to click different targets on the video to get more info from them only to find that, obviously, i cant. cause its a video.

Imagine if on that video i could still click a pilot, and see his info, or the info of the ship its flying, while the recording is playing. or switch to the view of another ship thats in the fight. zoom in and out on said ship. all the while this is still playing the recorded game play.

would be cool.

Another thing that i think would be nice is, when i click say an imgur or w/e link in chat and the browser opens the image, it would be a lot cleaner to have the browser window open to the exact size of of the image. this way my screen isnt covered with a white page every time i open one. much cleaner.


anyways, theres two spare cents in two spare minutes.
Reina Xyaer
Tha Lench Mob
#2 - 2015-03-17 20:50:27 UTC
Spectator mode...

like casting in Starcraft 2.

Depending on how it was implemented, this could be used as a powerful intel tool. That's the only potential game balance issue that I can think of. Other than that, I see no reason why this shouldn't be implemented.

Inb4 someone says something about how this idea is stupid/would be impossible because "it would cause so much lag hurrrgurrr"
Kirkra
The Versa-Ex Corp
#3 - 2015-03-17 20:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirkra
Well you can't do it client-side, otherwise everyone gets the entire grid state (and no use for scanners or watchlists or anything). So, to the already 90% TIDI environment you would add the load of saving every server action to some kind of recording? Or state of every tick on the grid? I'm pretty sure that would be one enormous file + add more server load, so no.

There's also the questions of "What do you record?" and "When do you publish it?". Record all fights? Record only fights that were requested? (So 99% instead of 100%). Publish them the next day? What if the fits are secret? What if the bookmark spots are supposed to be secret until the next fight on this grid (happening the next day).

It's a huge PITA for not all that much gain - solo PVP streamers will usually give commentary that allows to understand a lot more of the combat than just the video. Making sense of a 100 vs 100 fight is a daunting task if you're interested in individual pilot actions and states.

I can see one place where most of these problems are sidestepped: Tournament fights.

I would absolutely love to see recordings of tournament fights that have the actual positions of the ships and their states published after the tournament finished. There's nothing secret after prizes are awarded - by next year the meta and rules will have changed, so you can even show ship fittings. This would be an awesome addition, since, while the extra interface that CCP uses in realtime to show the fight progress is very informative, it does fall short in a lot of things.

As for your second idea: Don't post two ideas in one thread, that usually ends with one being criticized, and the other ignored, regardless of their qualities.

I would not want my browser to resize just because the new tab I opened contains a smaller image. Yeah, the browser does have tabs, and I usually keep a couple useful tabs open, and an extra one with crap from local/fleet chat to open pictures in.
Reina Xyaer
Tha Lench Mob
#4 - 2015-03-17 21:21:28 UTC
Kirkra wrote:
Well you can't do it client-side, otherwise everyone gets the entire grid state (and no use for scanners or watchlists or anything). So, to the already 90% TIDI environment you would add the load of saving every server action to some kind of recording? Or state of every tick on the grid? I'm pretty sure that would be one enormous file + add more server load, so no.

There's also the questions of "What do you record?" and "When do you publish it?". Record all fights? Record only fights that were requested? (So 99% instead of 100%). Publish them the next day? What if the fits are secret? What if the bookmark spots are supposed to be secret until the next fight on this grid (happening the next day).


I agree an interactive "recording" wouldn't really be worth it, or even a good thing.

But a live spectator mode, where players could stream their screen, but allow the spectators to click and look at things independently from the streamer would be good. Could open up EVE to "pro" gaming events like the aforementioned SC2.