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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#21 - 2015-03-15 16:34:53 UTC
Leiliana Atruin wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Leiliana Atruin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
I am new to the game (as in I started roughly 9 hours ago.) and I have a few questions.

1) I may have been mining for ISK, as some of the minerals have moderate yield and it is easy for someone with just a venture and no skills. I do want to move up/away/beyond mining though. Any recommendations? I would rather not engage in PvP at this point. I want more experience and a better ship before then.

2) I have heard High Sec space is more dangerous than low sec. Is this really true? Is suicide ganking really that prominent?

3) I want a better ship, and I don't mind working for the ISK to buy it. I would like a better ship for killing things, and for general use. Any recommendations?

4) Is there anything else I should know? What about scanning? I am having trouble figuring it out.


If you are interested in scanning/exploration as a profession then I would recommend that you have a look at the corp I am in. We try to teach our newest members if they need. We accept almost everyone if you are willing to abide by our corp credo.

keep this sort of thing for a private mail please,
lest we get everyone and their dog schilling their corp in here.


Never thought of that, but that is good advice! Thanks Big smile

Edit: I am not a recruiter for my corp, and do not have the power to invite anyone. The purpose of my post was just to point someone to a corp that MIGHT help them learning an area if they are interested in it.

oh no worries, i wasent having a go, tempted myself every now and again.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2015-03-15 16:46:54 UTC
Leiliana Atruin wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Leiliana Atruin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
I am new to the game (as in I started roughly 9 hours ago.) and I have a few questions.

1) I may have been mining for ISK, as some of the minerals have moderate yield and it is easy for someone with just a venture and no skills. I do want to move up/away/beyond mining though. Any recommendations? I would rather not engage in PvP at this point. I want more experience and a better ship before then.

2) I have heard High Sec space is more dangerous than low sec. Is this really true? Is suicide ganking really that prominent?

3) I want a better ship, and I don't mind working for the ISK to buy it. I would like a better ship for killing things, and for general use. Any recommendations?

4) Is there anything else I should know? What about scanning? I am having trouble figuring it out.


If you are interested in scanning/exploration as a profession then I would recommend that you have a look at the corp I am in. We try to teach our newest members if they need. We accept almost everyone if you are willing to abide by our corp credo.

keep this sort of thing for a private mail please,
lest we get everyone and their dog schilling their corp in here.


Never thought of that, but that is good advice! Thanks Big smile

Edit: I am not a recruiter for my corp, and do not have the power to invite anyone. The purpose of my post was just to point someone to a corp that MIGHT help them learning an area if they are interested in it.


Pro tip: Never use the "My corp" version in your post, but use "A corp".

A. It makes it look better as advice.
B. Your posts actually are more likely to stay, as recruitment in any other place then recruitment section is forbidden. This includes "half ass" recruitment and covert recruitment adverts...

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James Vakarian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-03-15 20:13:18 UTC
Well, just got killed by a player in an Astero. Why do people in 79million ISK ships even kill new players? All they got was some scanning probes and my best starting equipment.

Anyways, anybody have any idea what to do now? Lost one of my last decent combat ships and I don't have the skills to use my reserve ship. I also don't know what to do now that I'm past the tutorials, since all the Red Crosses are too strong and players are...players.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#24 - 2015-03-15 20:27:41 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Well, just got killed by a player in an Astero. Why do people in 79million ISK ships even kill new players? All they got was some scanning probes and my best starting equipment.

Anyways, anybody have any idea what to do now? Lost one of my last decent combat ships and I don't have the skills to use my reserve ship. I also don't know what to do now that I'm past the tutorials, since all the Red Crosses are too strong and players are...players.

Were you in lowsec?
If so that's what it's generally about, better potential for isk but you will be hunted mercilessly for sport by the locals,
it's part of its charm
Let's be clear,
I would shoot your rookie ship in my 1.6 billion "**** you and everything near you" ship if you managed to make yourself a legitimate target simply because I could.

Anyway, quick way to recover isk is what I mentioned earlier about combat scanning abandoned drones, seriously there's plenty of isk in it and if you get lucky and find a gecko you will have more isk than you will know what to do with.

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James Vakarian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-03-15 20:32:17 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
Well, just got killed by a player in an Astero. Why do people in 79million ISK ships even kill new players? All they got was some scanning probes and my best starting equipment.

Anyways, anybody have any idea what to do now? Lost one of my last decent combat ships and I don't have the skills to use my reserve ship. I also don't know what to do now that I'm past the tutorials, since all the Red Crosses are too strong and players are...players.

Were you in lowsec?
If so that's what it's generally about, better potential for isk but you will be hunted mercilessly for sport by the locals,
it's part of its charm
Let's be clear,
I would shoot your rookie ship in my 1.6 billion "**** you and everything near you" ship if you managed to make yourself a legitimate target simply because I could.

Anyway, quick way to recover isk is what I mentioned earlier about combat scanning abandoned drones, seriously there's plenty of isk in it and if you get lucky and find a gecko you will have more isk than you will know what to do with.



How do I do scans on abandoned drones? And yeah, .4 sec. I was helping a friend mine jaspit while I was doing scans of the system in hopes of some treasure. some guy dropped out of warp and got me in a field. My friend escaped though.

I want to say I am glad I had insurance, but the amount I lost isn't even close to the payout, in addition to me being down to literally mining rigs now.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-03-15 20:36:52 UTC
If you finish all the tutorials you should have a few million isk just from that.

Further to that you should check out the sisters of EVE epic arc which is designed for newer players after they are finished with tutorials, that's an extra few million isk and a good standings boost.

And as you've found out: if you fly something that has all of your money in it, losing it is going to be a real setback, so never fly something you can't afford to replace.

Art of Explosions
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#27 - 2015-03-15 20:43:56 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
Well, just got killed by a player in an Astero. Why do people in 79million ISK ships even kill new players? All they got was some scanning probes and my best starting equipment.

Anyways, anybody have any idea what to do now? Lost one of my last decent combat ships and I don't have the skills to use my reserve ship. I also don't know what to do now that I'm past the tutorials, since all the Red Crosses are too strong and players are...players.

Were you in lowsec?
If so that's what it's generally about, better potential for isk but you will be hunted mercilessly for sport by the locals,
it's part of its charm
Let's be clear,
I would shoot your rookie ship in my 1.6 billion "**** you and everything near you" ship if you managed to make yourself a legitimate target simply because I could.

Anyway, quick way to recover isk is what I mentioned earlier about combat scanning abandoned drones, seriously there's plenty of isk in it and if you get lucky and find a gecko you will have more isk than you will know what to do with.



How do I do scans on abandoned drones? And yeah, .4 sec. I was helping a friend mine jaspit while I was doing scans of the system in hopes of some treasure. some guy dropped out of warp and got me in a field. My friend escaped though.

I want to say I am glad I had insurance, but the amount I lost isn't even close to the payout, in addition to me being down to literally mining rigs now.

You need an "expanded probe launcher" and "combat probes" then in The probe scan window set the filter to drones ,
it functions like a normal probe but you need to cycle it once first to see anything,
same process as scanning any other signature just with the crap people forget ... Which once in a while happens to be worth as much as a faction frigate.

only thing you might have trouble with is fitting the damn thing on your ship, you can get them on a frigate but it's about all they you can fit, but if you're scooping drones that's actually all you need so.

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James Vakarian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-03-15 21:06:13 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
Well, just got killed by a player in an Astero. Why do people in 79million ISK ships even kill new players? All they got was some scanning probes and my best starting equipment.

Anyways, anybody have any idea what to do now? Lost one of my last decent combat ships and I don't have the skills to use my reserve ship. I also don't know what to do now that I'm past the tutorials, since all the Red Crosses are too strong and players are...players.

Were you in lowsec?
If so that's what it's generally about, better potential for isk but you will be hunted mercilessly for sport by the locals,
it's part of its charm
Let's be clear,
I would shoot your rookie ship in my 1.6 billion "**** you and everything near you" ship if you managed to make yourself a legitimate target simply because I could.

Anyway, quick way to recover isk is what I mentioned earlier about combat scanning abandoned drones, seriously there's plenty of isk in it and if you get lucky and find a gecko you will have more isk than you will know what to do with.



How do I do scans on abandoned drones? And yeah, .4 sec. I was helping a friend mine jaspit while I was doing scans of the system in hopes of some treasure. some guy dropped out of warp and got me in a field. My friend escaped though.

I want to say I am glad I had insurance, but the amount I lost isn't even close to the payout, in addition to me being down to literally mining rigs now.

You need an "expanded probe launcher" and "combat probes" then in The probe scan window set the filter to drones ,
it functions like a normal probe but you need to cycle it once first to see anything,
same process as scanning any other signature just with the crap people forget ... Which once in a while happens to be worth as much as a faction frigate.

only thing you might have trouble with is fitting the damn thing on your ship, you can get them on a frigate but it's about all they you can fit, but if you're scooping drones that's actually all you need so.


I bought the cheapest destroyer (A Corax for 1.5mil) I could find on the market, thinking I'd make a profit if I didn't like it. I'm finishing some skill training, but do you think it'd work for this job? I hope to some day get a Stratios and go scanning for relics and stuff, as that is my "big end game" atm.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#29 - 2015-03-15 21:21:47 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:

I bought the cheapest destroyer (A Corax for 1.5mil) I could find on the market, thinking I'd make a profit if I didn't like it. I'm finishing some skill training, but do you think it'd work for this job? I hope to some day get a Stratios and go scanning for relics and stuff, as that is my "big end game" atm.

I don't actually know if it will fit one,
the power grid for probes is about 200 I think,
maby with a couple of rigs?

I know you can do it with a magnate or the racial equivalent.

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James Vakarian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-03-15 21:33:37 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:

I bought the cheapest destroyer (A Corax for 1.5mil) I could find on the market, thinking I'd make a profit if I didn't like it. I'm finishing some skill training, but do you think it'd work for this job? I hope to some day get a Stratios and go scanning for relics and stuff, as that is my "big end game" atm.

I don't actually know if it will fit one,
the power grid for probes is about 200 I think,
maby with a couple of rigs?

I know you can do it with a magnate or the racial equivalent.



You are correct, as it falls 10 points shy o being able to use it. It has small rig slots. What rig should I be using?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#31 - 2015-03-15 21:46:24 UTC
Err the one that increases your power grid,
can't think of it's name off hand but it's under the engineering rigs header in the market.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-03-15 21:57:25 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Err the one that increases your power grid,
can't think of it's name off hand but it's under the engineering rigs header in the market.


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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2015-03-15 22:06:09 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:

I bought the cheapest destroyer (A Corax for 1.5mil) I could find on the market, thinking I'd make a profit if I didn't like it. I'm finishing some skill training, but do you think it'd work for this job? I hope to some day get a Stratios and go scanning for relics and stuff, as that is my "big end game" atm.

I don't actually know if it will fit one,
the power grid for probes is about 200 I think,
maby with a couple of rigs?

I know you can do it with a magnate or the racial equivalent.


Just a small correction, the expanded probe launcher needs 220 CPU. All probe launchers only use 1 power grid.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-03-15 22:06:55 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Well, just got killed by a player in an Astero. Why do people in 79million ISK ships even kill new players? All they got was some scanning probes and my best starting equipment.

Anyways, anybody have any idea what to do now? Lost one of my last decent combat ships and I don't have the skills to use my reserve ship. I also don't know what to do now that I'm past the tutorials, since all the Red Crosses are too strong and players are...players.


Your question should not be "why", as it's the same reason as any other MMO. Why does that level 100 player in wow go to low level zones and kill level 30s? Why does veteran that call of duty player create new accounts and then goes into free for alls with them?

The answer is always the same and it will be here too.

Your question should be: "How can i stop this from happening again?"

Art of Explosions
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#35 - 2015-03-15 23:03:34 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:

I bought the cheapest destroyer (A Corax for 1.5mil) I could find on the market, thinking I'd make a profit if I didn't like it. I'm finishing some skill training, but do you think it'd work for this job? I hope to some day get a Stratios and go scanning for relics and stuff, as that is my "big end game" atm.

I don't actually know if it will fit one,
the power grid for probes is about 200 I think,
maby with a couple of rigs?

I know you can do it with a magnate or the racial equivalent.


Just a small correction, the expanded probe launcher needs 220 CPU. All probe launchers only use 1 power grid.

My bad.

*removes foot from mouth*

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2015-03-15 23:31:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ned Thomas
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:

I bought the cheapest destroyer (A Corax for 1.5mil) I could find on the market, thinking I'd make a profit if I didn't like it. I'm finishing some skill training, but do you think it'd work for this job? I hope to some day get a Stratios and go scanning for relics and stuff, as that is my "big end game" atm.

I don't actually know if it will fit one,
the power grid for probes is about 200 I think,
maby with a couple of rigs?

I know you can do it with a magnate or the racial equivalent.


Just a small correction, the expanded probe launcher needs 220 CPU. All probe launchers only use 1 power grid.

My bad.

*removes foot from mouth*


No prob Blink

To OP on this idea, a frigate would be a better choice. Preferably one that has some drone space so you can fly around with some salvage drones and make some money on other people's trash. An Imicus or Magnate comes to mind. The Imicus would have more CPU and more drone bandwith.

EDIT: honestly just noticed that OP is Gallente. Use an Imicus (you should have gotten one from the tutorials). I'll mail you a fit.
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#37 - 2015-03-16 00:53:04 UTC
There are four frigates that have bonuses to probing: the Magnate (Amarr), Heron (Caldari), Imicus (Gallente) and aptly-named Probe (minmatar). For each level of your spaceship command skill (e.g. Caldari Frigate I, II, III, IV, V) you get a bonus to the effectiveness of probes. You don't need a destroyer for probing down lost drones.

If you can use a salvager, I'd put one of those on your frigate, too. Then you can not only probe for forgotten drones, but also probe for mission-runners in their missions, and salvage the NPC wrecks. The trick is to do your probing in a system with lots of mission runners. Sasoutikh, for example.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2015-03-16 01:03:36 UTC
OP stay in high sec until either you watch some videos and read up a bit on how to operate in the sec that you are going or have a vet to show you the ropes or have enough isk that you can afford to learn the fun way.

Before going anywhere other than high sec you'll want to have a much better understanding of D scan for sure. You might even want to watch some of the pirate low sec hunting tutorials even if you don't plan on hunting as you will know how to counter it. You'll also want to read up on making safe spots.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2015-03-16 01:08:37 UTC
Phig Neutron wrote:
There are four frigates that have bonuses to probing: the Magnate (Amarr), Heron (Caldari), Imicus (Gallente) and aptly-named Probe (minmatar). For each level of your spaceship command skill (e.g. Caldari Frigate I, II, III, IV, V) you get a bonus to the effectiveness of probes. You don't need a destroyer for probing down lost drones.

If you can use a salvager, I'd put one of those on your frigate, too. Then you can not only probe for forgotten drones, but also probe for mission-runners in their missions, and salvage the NPC wrecks. The trick is to do your probing in a system with lots of mission runners. Sasoutikh, for example.

If you are in a cheap ship you could also loot their wrecks. If you want to avoid the PvP book mark the rooms and wait until they turn it in then come back. Of course if that gets boring you could always fit for PvP.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#40 - 2015-03-16 01:09:43 UTC
Phig Neutron wrote:
Sasoutikh, for example.

dresi, is actually faily nice, older bears better drops err drones, i meant drones....Straight

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