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CSM Minutes - CCP dont you screw up the chimera

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Serene Repose
#81 - 2015-03-13 10:47:47 UTC
What do they do, fly the CSM to Reykjavik and while they're still jet lagged ply them with Jaeger then tell them,
"Here's what," then ship them home? I've read some of the "discussions". They're as cogent as the convo
in a drunk tank on Saturday night. Then we get "minutes" in which are hidden several panic buttons?

Am I getting this RIGHT??


No. Don't tell me. I'd rather hear, "The check is in the mail."

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Celgar Thurn
Department 10
#82 - 2015-03-13 11:00:02 UTC
Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
As promised with CCP Mankiller's dev blog from December, Team TriLambda is revisiting every ship to improve the look. This work is also ongoing.

The art team knows we have farther to go to nail the looks of many ships in the game, and there are strong voices speaking for the players on this. Fixes won't be immediate but they are coming.

Good, can't wait to have the Sleipnir back in the Cyclone hull. It is just looking rubbish and wrong in the Hurricane hull.


+1 on this. The old Sleipnir hull was 1000% better looking than the Hurricane hull. 'Winmatar' really has had a kicking in terms of both projectile weapons vs other weapon systems and ship designs. I suppose it's good to have change in regards to the 'meta' and weapon systems but turning a lot of the Minmatar ships virtually black in colour was never going to be an attractive look.
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2015-03-13 18:13:26 UTC
Yikes! Want a taste of the new Chimera? Looks like there is a teaser for its concept art in the new Dev Blog about the new Art of New Eden book.

It looks like the Chimera (and maybe all Caldari ships?) are getting that cheap, banged out, sheet metal look that the Mordus ships and the new Blackbird have.

Disappointing choice IMO. It looks more like something a kid made in shop rather than a functional flying ship.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2015-03-13 18:55:48 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Arronicus wrote:
You seem to have not seen many of them. Particularly the new blackbird/falcon that looks like our graphics rendering messed up and created some distorted box, that doesn't fit in with any of the other ships in eve. Or the way they ruined the paintjobs on many, if not most pirate faction ships. Or other iconic ships that got ruined like the vagabond.


OK, first, breathe with me: [ whwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhh ]

Now.

If you're referring to the Blackbird/Falcon/Rook being off-center in the camera, the new design revealed a specific issue with our old algorithm for calculating bounding spheres. A fix is in work.

As promised with CCP Mankiller's dev blog from December, Team TriLambda is revisiting every ship to improve the look. This work is also ongoing.

The art team knows we have farther to go to nail the looks of many ships in the game, and there are strong voices speaking for the players on this. Fixes won't be immediate but they are coming.


He's talking about retractable antennas... lots of them... everywhere and on every ship!

Eve needs more retractable antennas. Antennas that retract as soon as you go into warp. Also rebuilding the ship while warping, yay!
PhantomMajor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2015-03-13 19:49:36 UTC
Sean Apollo wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
So CSM minutes, apparently ALL ships will be touched on design wise, including chimera

chimera is literally the only carrier i think actually LOOKS like a carrier, aside from maybe the nid/hel. plus its launch ramp reminds me of gundam.

In short if it has to be changed, dont change it too much, i still want to be able to easily recognize it as a CHIMERA afterwards

I don't think you should worry. The recent ships they have added/ redesigned look great. I'm pretty excited on how they will change the looks of them


Clearly you have not seen the Falcon lately. It was ugly now it's Fugly
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#86 - 2015-03-13 20:21:13 UTC
http://i.imgur.com/JLbtTT4.png

Been around since the beginning.
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2015-03-13 20:29:14 UTC
It is awful. I hope that it is a fairly new hire creating that look and I hope that new hire goes and works for Riot.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#88 - 2015-03-13 20:47:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Niobe Song wrote:
It is awful. I hope that it is a fairly new hire creating that look and I hope that new hire goes and works for Riot.

Don't call it awful. It's industrial.
Bandalon Ominus
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#89 - 2015-03-13 23:07:56 UTC
please dont ruin the wyvern, its fine, might even wanna go ot the old red moon rising, but would hate it if it was changed to the new chimera design concept style..
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#90 - 2015-03-14 00:25:40 UTC
I like it, maybe cuz iv been flying chimera's for ever...

Been around since the beginning.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#91 - 2015-03-14 05:22:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Obsidian Hawk
CCP Darwin wrote:
Kinza wrote:
Art team putting polls on designs and calling for general design ideas from the player base would be awesome


A program of polling and asking for player submissions is unlikely, however the art team does see feedback posted in Features & Ideas, so please feel welcome to post there. As for other ways to get your feedback heard, we are planning to have a round table session at Fanfest that will provide an opportunity for player feedback. Also, CSM members often pass along art feedback, so you can consider contacting one of the CSM representatives.



CCP Darwin and Kinza I need to correct you on something.

CCP Did hold a contest a few years ago on Deviant art for Ship designs to be put into eve online. Deviant Art Link.
There is no shortage of ideas for ships and designs out there. In fact all the Tier 3 battle cruisers came from that contest.
Even though the contest is still over, I believe that CCP still has the right to buy any of the designs submitted to the contest pending some negotiation with the owner and Deviant Art.

EDIT : link starts on page 145 or design 145 I'm not sure which.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Claud Tiberius
#92 - 2015-03-14 08:27:34 UTC
New Chimera looks good. Glad to see the tech/efficiency ship design - as seen on the blackbird, becoming more common with the fleet.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#93 - 2015-03-14 18:28:38 UTC
Bandalon Ominus wrote:
please dont ruin the wyvern, its fine, might even wanna go ot the old red moon rising, but would hate it if it was changed to the new chimera design concept style..

The Wyvern is probably the one capital ship in most dire need of a redesign.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#94 - 2015-03-14 18:41:13 UTC  |  Edited by: LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Agree, dont touch the chimera. New design that was leaked looks ugly. If you are going to retouch the model, copy the existing one, its fantastic. Especially the front part of the chimera, with the arching bridge.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#95 - 2015-03-14 19:20:23 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
[...] waiiiit a second. Has there been a commitment to give distinct models to T2 ships, from their base hulls?


Fairly certain the eagle/onyx and rook/falcon are most recent proof of the direction they're heading. Each case, both look very similar to the base T1 hull, but they got significant character added over some variations (Eagle's neck, Onyx' missile mounts on the wings, Rook and Falcon having quite different (supposed to be bridge+ewar-battery?)

When the new Blackbird was first introduced, those minor variations struck me as very neat first steps in that direction.
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2015-03-14 20:03:46 UTC
They have also mentioned in the dev blogs (or maybe it was patch notes) after the Incursus and Exequror were redesigned that in a future patch their T2 or Navy variants would get updates as well to differentiate them.

And for the guy a few posts up that things the Wyvern is the capital ship most in need of an update....whaaaat?

Have you never seen the Aeon, Archon or Ragnarok? The Wyvern is awesome.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#97 - 2015-03-15 03:57:02 UTC
Niobe Song wrote:
They have also mentioned in the dev blogs (or maybe it was patch notes) after the Incursus and Exequror were redesigned that in a future patch their T2 or Navy variants would get updates as well to differentiate them.

And for the guy a few posts up that things the Wyvern is the capital ship most in need of an update....whaaaat?

Have you never seen the Aeon, Archon or Ragnarok? The Wyvern is awesome.



Rag is awesome, it is the king of rust buckets! How can CCP improve on it add more rust?

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2015-03-15 20:14:45 UTC
It looks like you gave a 3 year old a stack of Lego blocks and asked them to build a space ship. And they just started stacking blocks without rhyme or reason.

There is no there there.
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#99 - 2015-03-16 01:07:59 UTC
d0cTeR9 wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/JLbtTT4.png


I like the current Chimera far more than that tin can looking design. Oh well, if thats why CCP is going for, there's no stopping them.

I just hope it doesnt have the screwed up camera view that the Falcon, Blackbird and Rook has. CCP still hasn't fixed that screw up.
Koebmand
Silverflames
#100 - 2015-03-16 02:25:23 UTC
Why not make more ships instead of destroying old to create new looks?