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Paranoid Loyd
#21 - 2015-03-13 00:48:13 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
If you are a penny pincher it could be argued the 970 is overkill for Eve, I am running a 660 and it runs 4 accounts all on high just fine.

It's not even an argument. The 970 is way overkill. You can run 4 accounts on high at 1080 with a card half the price.

Yeah I figured as much, just haven't educated myself enough to speak with your confidence.

Just thought I would mention it as reading through the thread seemed to indicate 970 was necessary.

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ashley Eoner
#22 - 2015-03-13 02:17:49 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
If you are a penny pincher it could be argued the 970 is overkill for Eve, I am running a 660 and it runs 4 accounts all on high just fine.

It's not even an argument. The 970 is way overkill. You can run 4 accounts on high at 1080 with a card half the price.

Yeah I figured as much, just haven't educated myself enough to speak with your confidence.

Just thought I would mention it as reading through the thread seemed to indicate 970 was necessary.

Indeed being cautious in that situation is a smart move. I have a variety of hardware combos in my house though.

If you're in a massive fight like BR then you'll have issues running one client on high at 1080 but not solely because of the graphics card. Eve will be hitting your hard drive(s) and subsystems hard.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#23 - 2015-03-13 03:02:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...

...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive.

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ashley Eoner
#24 - 2015-03-13 04:03:04 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...

...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive.

Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough".


Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall).
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#25 - 2015-03-13 04:32:28 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...

...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive.

Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough".


Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall).

Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings.

Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed edition™) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40

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ashley Eoner
#26 - 2015-03-13 19:33:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...

...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive.

Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough".


Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall).

Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings.

Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed edition™) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40
I said "good enough" not "good enough to run at 4k with 4 clients at max graphics" not "good enough to blow away anything else". "good enough" meaning "good enough to run the game". That's a huge step up from the time when integrated graphics was barely good enough to run the GUI of windows. Having said that the HD 6000 graphics is as good as a lower end dedicated graphics card when setup properly. The newer version of the HD graphics under the name Iris can run battlefield 3 at 1080p with high settings so I'm sure it could handle 4 eve clients with the proper hardware to back it up (ram mobo etc).


You can get a solid 240 GB SSD for $100 at newegg right this moment. It'd be unintelligent to buy a smaller SSD to save a little money when you could get the bigger one and have ALL your stuff be many times faster loading. Loading into desktop from a cold start in 4 seconds is no joke. 32 GB drive won't fit much other than the OS.
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
#27 - 2015-03-13 19:36:42 UTC  |  Edited by: WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
Lan Wang wrote:
i7 processor and gtx 970 gfx card \o/

i7 is overkill even for high demand shooters. drop down to i5 and you're at the right place.

as for the card, I'd say even a 4GiB GTX 960 would do the job perfectly.

for comparison, I'm running 3 clients with an i5 2500 and a GTX 770 2GiB and the 3 run at around 60 FPS like.

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#28 - 2015-03-13 20:06:23 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...

...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive.

Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough".


Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall).

Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings.

Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed edition™) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40
I said "good enough" not "good enough to run at 4k with 4 clients at max graphics" not "good enough to blow away anything else". "good enough" meaning "good enough to run the game". That's a huge step up from the time when integrated graphics was barely good enough to run the GUI of windows. Having said that the HD 6000 graphics is as good as a lower end dedicated graphics card when setup properly. The newer version of the HD graphics under the name Iris can run battlefield 3 at 1080p with high settings so I'm sure it could handle 4 eve clients with the proper hardware to back it up (ram mobo etc).


You can get a solid 240 GB SSD for $100 at newegg right this moment. It'd be unintelligent to buy a smaller SSD to save a little money when you could get the bigger one and have ALL your stuff be many times faster loading. Loading into desktop from a cold start in 4 seconds is no joke. 32 GB drive won't fit much other than the OS.


Yes, I get that Intel HD chips are better then before (never knew they were BF4 capable better.) I usually always avoid on-board video because, well let's face it, a few years ago I'd never settle for lower then 1080,and now I'll never settle for lower then 4k. So, on-board I'll continue to ignore...

I just spat out a lower number based on the OP stated requirements. Which is " 4 clients of EVE only........maybe OS and random programs." No other requirements noted, therefore, pre-built rig with aftermarket dedicated video. Adding a SSD is optional, and still is, I enjoy a nice 3 second boot time myself, but other people don't really mind a 15-20 second boot time. So with a standard pre-built machine with the OS preloaded, the SSD would be an optional upgrade, and since the OP stated it would be for "EVE use only (game wise)" then a disk size required for the job is all that's needed. Sure, some people might like a little wiggle room. But that's literally user dependant.

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ashley Eoner
#29 - 2015-03-13 20:24:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...

...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive.

Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough".


Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall).

Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings.

Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed edition™) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40
I said "good enough" not "good enough to run at 4k with 4 clients at max graphics" not "good enough to blow away anything else". "good enough" meaning "good enough to run the game". That's a huge step up from the time when integrated graphics was barely good enough to run the GUI of windows. Having said that the HD 6000 graphics is as good as a lower end dedicated graphics card when setup properly. The newer version of the HD graphics under the name Iris can run battlefield 3 at 1080p with high settings so I'm sure it could handle 4 eve clients with the proper hardware to back it up (ram mobo etc).


You can get a solid 240 GB SSD for $100 at newegg right this moment. It'd be unintelligent to buy a smaller SSD to save a little money when you could get the bigger one and have ALL your stuff be many times faster loading. Loading into desktop from a cold start in 4 seconds is no joke. 32 GB drive won't fit much other than the OS.


Yes, I get that Intel HD chips are better then before (never knew they were BF4 capable better.) I usually always avoid on-board video because, well let's face it, a few years ago I'd never settle for lower then 1080,and now I'll never settle for lower then 4k. So, on-board I'll continue to ignore...

I just spat out a lower number based on the OP stated requirements. Which is " 4 clients of EVE only........maybe OS and random programs." No other requirements noted, therefore, pre-built rig with aftermarket dedicated video. Adding a SSD is optional, and still is, I enjoy a nice 3 second boot time myself, but other people don't really mind a 15-20 second boot time. So with a standard pre-built machine with the OS preloaded, the SSD would be an optional upgrade, and since the OP stated it would be for "EVE use only (game wise)" then a disk size required for the job is all that's needed. Sure, some people might like a little wiggle room. But that's literally user dependant.
It might start with "eve only" but in my experience rarely does it actually stay there.

Planning for the future is always a good idea when building a system. That future tends to include stuff you never expected like getting hooked on an AAA title that just came out.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#30 - 2015-03-13 21:13:47 UTC
Preaching to the choir m8!

But, not everyone thinks like that. When OP says "Just EVE" OP might actually mean "just EVE!"

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Xenon 101
Xenon Engineering Ltd
#31 - 2015-03-14 16:43:41 UTC
I'm running Eve just fine on dual core AMD Athlon 64 2.2 ghz, 2 G ddr2 ram, amd hd 7560 pci express 1gb video card on Linux Mint 17

I get around 35 fps on low settings and around 15 fps on high. No fleets battle it works well for exploration, missions or mining

Total computer cost.......under 120 $ :)........hmmmm I still have some pentium 3 mobo and processor laying around... I wonder.....
Kuga
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2015-03-14 19:11:35 UTC
Ok so working on a budget for an Eve PC: Without going into details of exact components (you'll figure those out quickly if you're au fait with PC building), I'd recommend the following:

Focus your spend on processor, motherboard and RAM.

Processor: go cheap but powerful. AMD does much better budget offerings than Intel, while still offering huge processing power.

Motherboard: Mid range, make sure it supports 16x PCIE. Don't overspend on it: even value motherboards tend to be well equipped.

GPU: go cheap. This is where you can upgrade later if you want to play much more than EVE. I'm not going to recommend a particular one here because I feel it would be better to hear of other people's experiences with cheap cards. A further recommendation is to check out the energy efficiency of the cards, particularly when idle (people often forget this expense). From my experience, Nvidia tend to be better in this offering.

RAM: 8Gb should be perfect for you and again can be added to later, if required.

HDD: 1Tb standard. Don't bother with SSD for now.

Consider getting a CPU, MB and RAM combo like this one:

CPU, MB, RAM Bundle


Summary: the aim of a setup like this one is to maximise the core power of your PC while cutting out the unnecessary 'bling'. It will run what you need perfectly for now and upgrading will simply be a process of changing the GPU and possibly adding RAM if you feel you need it.

The rationale of this is that GPU's are advancing markedly faster than CPU's - it will inevitably be the quickest outdated component of any PC. In addition changing a CPU often means changing the motherboard, which is an extra expense (and work).

I hope, perhaps, some of this is helpful to you. Good luck with your build, whatever you decide!
Jenshae Chiroptera
#33 - 2015-03-15 03:11:08 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Using this motherboard with this processor you can then pick this chip up in a few years at a knock off second hand price and have it compatible.
Might want to move this thread to this section of the forums.

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Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#34 - 2015-03-15 12:24:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Gary Bell
One... Why So much hate on AMD... I have never had any issue with mine.. Hell the first one i ever owned still works..?

I run

AMD 6300 Black Edition

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit

16GB RipJaw X

Kingston 120 GB Solid State

WD Blue 1 TB Drive

ASRock 970 Extreme 3 MB

3 Geforce 9800 GT

Corsair 1000w Rm Series

-SO Yeah... I like AMD and they are cheap as hell for good results

-My Graphics cards are old but for some reason I cant seem to kill them.. With three of them running I can play 18 clients on high settings getting 80 fps.. I was in BR and was octaboxing with no problems still getting like 60 fps well trying eve was in slow-mo but my PC worked fine. ( I Run the 1Gb Version )

Motherboard is still a little old but it hasent become a bottleneck yet.

SS Drive is a must for any gamer these days

But this whole setup aside from the extras I have (5 Monitors) and Liquid cooling everything is a like $700 Build and can run EVE like a boss..

Oh and AMD For life
jurgen b
Papal Zouaves
#35 - 2015-03-15 15:33:19 UTC
Just saying. overkill > then everything else. If you play EVE you always do pvp or want to engage in pvp with the biggest amount of overkill that is possible, well seeing on the KM's Lol So that is how a rig that you play EVE on should act as well, one can not have enough overkill to play games on it, it also gives devs more room to improve PC games instead dumbing them down for commodore 64 versions, like we all know PC games suffer alot because the games are way to dumbed down for a wider audience and not to scare console players that PC is > then concole Cool so better have overkill as much as you can \o/
Serene Repose
#36 - 2015-03-15 16:43:51 UTC
This is easily done.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#37 - 2015-03-16 03:35:13 UTC
Unless money is no object I'd consider i5 over i7. There are some good CPUs out there with fantastic over-clocking options. Look out for an i5 on a Z87 or Z97 chipset board, which both have over-clocking options.

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Geyene
Doomheim
#38 - 2015-03-16 18:55:09 UTC
Incindir Mauser wrote:

The Tandy TRS80 is the obvious choice here.


spring for the model iv. meteor mission _screams_ on it.

If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.   If you have a big enough hammer, every problem is a nail.
Kurtis Khagah
The Pinecone Squad
United Federation of Conifers
#39 - 2015-03-17 15:23:57 UTC
i3-4150, 120$. I'm pretty sure eve doesn't use more than 1 core so a dual core processor is the way to go.
r7 260x 120$. I only have 1 account and run it on max except for anti-aliasing. Jita undock can be laggy, otherwise I have had no slowdowns.

You could get the older i3-4130 for $80. A gt-730 for 50$ and still probably run eve on med-high.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#40 - 2015-03-17 15:29:54 UTC
Leannor wrote:
HI,

Looking for advice for an EVE-Build pc. I know how to build a PC, just not sure on which are the best parts for the job. Don’t wanna spend too much and go overkill – but equally don’t wanna spend to little and get stuck with something not powerful enough and not upgradable.

I’d like the PC to be able to run 3-4 accounts, at quality optimal, and not drag in normal use. Besides that, just normal Office 10 and browsing. No other hi-spec gaming.

Can anyone recommend combinations of m-Boards, CPU, quantity of RAM, cases, and power units that are good? Would probably like to include a dvd or bluray writer so a few connectors.

Any links and suggestions please? Brands to go for, and avoid maybe? Aiming somewhere imbetween 500-1000 for the entire build (including the stuff not mentioned above).


4 clients?

This is what I use.

Seriously though, EVE is great in that it's relatively 'lightweight' compared to other games, On my crappy "damn near Commodore 64" set up I can run 4 clients with normal graphics with no slow down.
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