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Which Ship Hull Should be next in line for the makeover train?

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Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#21 - 2015-03-14 07:09:40 UTC
Reina Xyaer wrote:
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE NEW SHIPS.

What's that you say? MORE NEW SHIPS! +1 YES!

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Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-03-14 07:49:53 UTC
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Wylde Kardde wrote:
Leon Mantis wrote:
I agree with everyone off your toughts on ship redesigns except for the slasher Lol and the archon. (no capital redesigns needed really)

Some other ships that could use a make-over:

Armageddon - tho it looks good, it should be the next battleship redesign after the Dominix. Also we might get that Bhaalgorn a special new look.

Atron - Something like this
Celestis - looks weird, nuff said.

Cormorant - needs a new look

Breacher - looks far too fragile



I know people are touchy about capitals, but in all honesty if people fly caps its gonna be due to their bonuses/ fitting/ and stat distribution.. a change in the ship model of just 1 supercarrier would have 0 ill effect on anything i would bet. Null Fleet combat could have teddybears instead of ships as long as they do their job, plus everyone's usually zoomed out anyway.

i felt that i had to mention the archon though because it simply never gave me (and i assume some others can agree) that wow factor in a supercapital that need so much group logistical support to operate.. it should be visually motivating to some degree and not a sad representation of amarrian brilliance mastering armor, its like literally 1/2 of a ship lol


The archon is a regular cap. The Aeon is a supercap, that looks half finished.

I think archon looks fine. Aeon looks alil derpy though.


Oh crap hah ..yes Aeon is the one i meant

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#23 - 2015-03-14 08:05:27 UTC
Leave the Aeon alone! Evil

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Claud Tiberius
#24 - 2015-03-14 08:18:35 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress.

Chimera? Any hints?

Yes, actually: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/6.jpg

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Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-03-14 08:39:00 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress.


Thank you for the post, I am very happy to hear that it wasnt forgotten. I know designs can be challenging and i wanted to throw this simple idea out there, while the Minmatar Burst may be a minor ship to people, it was my only ship i had back in 2010 when i began seeing how big EvE was, i flew that thing for hours everywhere being such a newb. however these days if its in front of me ill use it to zip around, maybe try out the new role it has. Time & time again I become more certain that this little guy was meant to be vertical, nothing altered except maybe 1 thruster & a new control deck on the side and boom! you have a mini Tempest. That would be easy as pie and makes it 200 times more minmatar.. anyway just my 2 cents on that.. I hope it gets somewhere.

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Aivlis Eldelbar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-03-14 13:04:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Aivlis Eldelbar
Claud Tiberius wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress.

Chimera? Any hints?

Yes, actually: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/6.jpg


I was about to say that the Chimera doesn't need a redesign as much as some other, much uglier things (:cough: osprey :cough:) but that one looks quite nice and keeps the current style of the hull.

Also, my two cents on ugly ships:

- Osprey. It looks like a bloated insect.
- The thorax line could be made symetrical and lose the funky bottom engine as has been pointed out.
- The blops line could benefit from a rework to differentiate them more from their T1 counterparts, just like bombers look quite different from their base hulls.
- Some T3 configurations are uglier than sin, but I guess somebody likes them.
- The Golem. Just... why? I'm still bitter that just as I trained into marauders it got caught under a steamroller and flattened Lol
Lugh Crow-Slave
#27 - 2015-03-14 13:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Claud Tiberius wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress.

Chimera? Any hints?

Yes, actually: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/6.jpg



My chimera T.T of all the ugly ass ships in eve why you got to go messing with the chimera


this just looks like a fragile rokh


EDIT:


However if they are doing this so as to finally implement a triage animation I'm okay with it

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Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-03-14 14:06:00 UTC
For me i would say "Nightmare" , it looks really out-dated.

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Kardaval Scheinder
Curtana Joyeuse and Durendal Security
#29 - 2015-03-14 15:56:41 UTC
i wouldn't mind the caracals getting "buffier" looking while still keeping in line with their profil, (not a ban of their anorexic profile)


The osprey is another one, it was ok when it was a mining ship, but a change to a military support vessel make it's profile just weird, some asymetrical with a spartan design would be nice.

and i only really fly caldari ships, so ihave no opinions on the other factions
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#30 - 2015-03-14 17:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Murkar Omaristos
I can't believe the Arazu hasn't been mentioned. ATM it looks like a tumor. Evidence for my tumor-claim: A wild tumor appeared! This is way worse than the bellicose, caracal etc. IMO that have been mentioned.

Also aside from redesigns - on Gallente ships in general I have this to say: 1995 called, they want their textures back. I think the Gallente textures really need some love. The amarr ones look fantastic under PBR but the gallente cruisers are all rusty now.

I know CCP mentioned it immediately after the release of PBR, but since then I've seen no mention of updating the gallente textures so they don't look so rusty and outdated.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#31 - 2015-03-14 17:08:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Murkar Omaristos wrote:
I can't believe the Arazu hasn't been mentioned. ATM it looks like a tumor. Evidence for my tumor-claim: A wild tumor appeared! This is way worse than the bellicose, caracal etc. IMO that have been mentioned.

Also aside from redesigns - on Gallente ships in general I have this to say: 1995 called, they want their textures back. I think the Gallente textures really need some love. The amarr ones look fantastic under PBR but the gallente cruisers are all rusty now.

I know CCP mentioned it immediately after the release of PBR, but since then I've seen no mention of updating the gallente textures so they don't look so rusty and outdated.


it's not an overall bad looking ship though its just not symmetrical

and you think gal got it bad after PBR try the cal/minm ships that look like their textures failed to load lol

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Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#32 - 2015-03-14 17:12:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Murkar Omaristos
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:


it's not an overall bad looking ship though its just not symmetrical


Er....not bad looking, just asymmetrical and tumor-shaped.....yes......lol

I do agree the caldari and minmatar skins got worse. However the rust on Gallente skins is pretty bad. have you looked closely at a Thorax recently?

Caldari has already had the moa and blackbirds redesigned as well....so either minmatar (yer that bellicose is bad) or gallente IMO before looking at another caldari redesign.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#33 - 2015-03-14 22:11:14 UTC
Reina Xyaer wrote:
Barbara Nichole wrote:
As of yet not in the game ship. I want new stuff not the hammering of the stuff we have 'til it's dead. Some ships should not be changed.. it doesn't matter if they are ugly.. ships are not all designed the same way and ugliness should be allowed. but let's not wreck anything else please.


No no NO. No. Stop with the new ships.

We don't need any more NEW SHIPS.

CCP doesn't balance the ships we already have.

WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE NEW SHIPS.

Damn, please learn to read, all of the ships listed to this point ARE ALREADY IN THE GAME, they are not advocating adding new ships, simply redesigning the visual appearance of some already in the game. And news flash for you here they can implement a new model without changing any of the specs of the ship so there are no balance issues introduced that did not already exist.

Back to the OP
Domi, Vexor/Ishtar would be nice but since I fly them I rarely look at them.
As a race I think the Amarr ships are in most need of some minor reworks. They are some of the nicest hull shapes of all and then they go and ruin them by hanging all that useless crap off the sides or top. The Coercer is just one example, chop off hat ugly extension on the side and make it a little more symmetrical, sleek and sexy.
Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-03-15 00:39:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Wylde Kardde
Claud Tiberius wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress.

Chimera? Any hints?

Yes, actually: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/6.jpg


I'm pretty sure that thing on the right is clearly the new Caldari blackbird hull close up (already in game) and the ship on the left is definitely caldari's tech 3 destroyer since being developed and not presented yet. That pic is our probably our preview of it, not a new chimera.

Edit: Never mind... I didn't look close enough at the pic

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Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#35 - 2015-03-15 00:49:13 UTC
Mordus Legion called: They want their carrier back.

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Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#36 - 2015-03-15 01:36:29 UTC
New chimera thingme looks awesome >_> but an odd ship to redesign since the old model looks fine
Lienzo
Amanuensis
#37 - 2015-03-15 01:49:25 UTC
In all these years, I don't think I've ever considered the dominix to be a bad looking ship. It has a lot of interesting details. If anything, I think people object more to the potato design than the textures, but I don't mind it.
CW Itovuo
The Executioners
#38 - 2015-03-15 01:51:00 UTC
Osprey is awesome.

Model change not required, nor sought.

Serioiusly, don't phuck w/ the 'spray, it's B-E-A-utifal as is.


You just have to tilt your head a bit and squint your eyes, and appreciate it as is.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2015-03-15 01:58:23 UTC
Honestly I just want improved models that retain as much of the original flair as possible. I really like the idea behind the scythe, but its too boxy right now. Many other ships are similar.

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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#40 - 2015-03-15 02:06:32 UTC
Why change the Chimera? There's nothing at all wrong with it.