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Why can you not log out to your char selection screen still?

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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-03-13 17:30:22 UTC
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#2 - 2015-03-13 17:32:09 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago
"it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"

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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-03-13 17:36:09 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago
"it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"



What i dont believe that at all. So youre telling me to go back to a screen that already exists takes 6 months and 5 devs. thats completely BS.
YuIia
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-03-13 17:37:52 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago
"it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"


Which makes no sense because they spent the same amount of time doing the streaming client, that will only be used once per install.

As someone that uses all the characters on my account it would significantly improve the game for me to be able to log out to character screen. CCP don't play the game enough to understand how important it is.
Serene Repose
#5 - 2015-03-13 18:07:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?
I guess CCP doesn't realize what an important figure you are in the gaming industry. Maybe if you SHOUT
your wish would become their command!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Marsha Mallow
#6 - 2015-03-13 18:09:12 UTC
It takes 4 clicks using the launcher to relog a different character on the same account. If you login and leave the launcher running its ESC > QUIT > PLAY (username/pw is saved for the account) > SELECT CHARACTER.

How many clicks do you expect a relog to the character screen to actually save?

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#7 - 2015-03-13 18:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
Serene Repose wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?
I guess CCP doesn't realize what an important figure you are in the gaming industry. Maybe if you SHOUT
your wish would become their command!
Can't you just see them wiggling in their seats and whining to themselves as they have to press the play button and wait that thirty seconds, AGAIN! The horror! The horror!

Marsha Mallow wrote:
It takes 4 clicks using the launcher to relog a different character on the same account. If you login and leave the launcher running its ESC > QUIT > PLAY (username/pw is saved for the account) > SELECT CHARACTER.

How many clicks do you expect a relog to the character screen to actually save?
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#8 - 2015-03-13 18:23:14 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Agondray wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago
"it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"



What i dont believe that at all. So youre telling me to go back to a screen that already exists takes 6 months and 5 devs. thats completely BS.


You know nothing about coding..

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#9 - 2015-03-13 18:27:00 UTC
YuIia wrote:
Agondray wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago
"it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"


Which makes no sense because they spent the same amount of time doing the streaming client, that will only be used once per install.

As someone that uses all the characters on my account it would significantly improve the game for me to be able to log out to character screen. CCP don't play the game enough to understand how important it is.


yeah I don't remember which CSM minutes, I think it was 8 or so.

the main reason they used was along the lines for many things they say for the code now.
"the Legacy code is to old of code and there is no one left at the company to do the code"

many of the new things that have been done over the past several years is New Code being surgically inserted into legacy code for the 2 codes to work together (thanks of things like the new deployables)

Some of the old code has been deleted and rewritten by the new code.

most of the old code remains (POS's are a good example)

Like many places when they lose employees (and the military) when they lose people no one bothers to fill the other in on the work that they do (programming skills for the old code could have been passed to new programmers in training) they would atleast have someone that knows something about the old code instead of a office full of people killing themselves of trying to understand the old code and how to write new code and stich it together like a Frankenstein Program

I for one would like to have CCP show up excepts of the code so we can see what old code, new code, and the combined code looks like.

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stoicfaux
#10 - 2015-03-13 18:33:45 UTC
Agondray wrote:

"it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"

To be fair, Computer Science is a field where one will spend three days to save three seconds. I guess CCP has simply set an upper boundary for that truism.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-03-13 18:38:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


If it's even an issue at all, in CCP's "eyes", it's so far down on the "To Do" list as to have a priority somewhere on par with shovelling whale shyte at the bottom of the ocean.

Technically, CCP has better things to do with it's time.

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Jonah Gravenstein
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#12 - 2015-03-13 18:41:07 UTC
*curses OP for making me like a Serene Repose post.

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Cannon.Fodder
#13 - 2015-03-13 18:55:43 UTC  |  Edited by: DaReaper
Agondray wrote:
YuIia wrote:
Agondray wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago
"it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"


Which makes no sense because they spent the same amount of time doing the streaming client, that will only be used once per install.

As someone that uses all the characters on my account it would significantly improve the game for me to be able to log out to character screen. CCP don't play the game enough to understand how important it is.


yeah I don't remember which CSM minutes, I think it was 8 or so.

the main reason they used was along the lines for many things they say for the code now.
"the Legacy code is to old of code and there is no one left at the company to do the code"

many of the new things that have been done over the past several years is New Code being surgically inserted into legacy code for the 2 codes to work together (thanks of things like the new deployables)

Some of the old code has been deleted and rewritten by the new code.

most of the old code remains (POS's are a good example)

Like many places when they lose employees (and the military) when they lose people no one bothers to fill the other in on the work that they do (programming skills for the old code could have been passed to new programmers in training) they would atleast have someone that knows something about the old code instead of a office full of people killing themselves of trying to understand the old code and how to write new code and stich it together like a Frankenstein Program

I for one would like to have CCP show up excepts of the code so we can see what old code, new code, and the combined code looks like.


Except thats not true. CCP TomB is still around, and hes been at CCP sinse at least 04 when i started.

This is why i said before if i was Hilmar, right after incarnia i would of setup a special team that did nothing but a full blown rewrite. With the expantions being to lead up to the full rewrite. but thats me

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Memphis Baas
#14 - 2015-03-13 19:14:09 UTC
You can argue about it, OP, but it's been like this since 2003, and we've asked a few times. So if they haven't done it in 12 years...
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-03-13 19:47:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
Actually, there's nobody left alive that remembers the legacy code. They've been digging in sites around Silicon Valley in hopes of uncovering a legendary computer lab supposedly buried under layers of accumulated earthquake debris. I think the expedition is headed up by a guy with a deathly fear of snakes, who carries a bullwhip...Louisiana Jones,
or somethin'.

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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-03-13 20:26:40 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?
I guess CCP doesn't realize what an important figure you are in the gaming industry. Maybe if you SHOUT
your wish would become their command!
Can't you just see them wiggling in their seats and whining to themselves as they have to press the play button and wait that thirty seconds, AGAIN! The horror! The horror!

Marsha Mallow wrote:
It takes 4 clicks using the launcher to relog a different character on the same account. If you login and leave the launcher running its ESC > QUIT > PLAY (username/pw is saved for the account) > SELECT CHARACTER.

How many clicks do you expect a relog to the character screen to actually save?
^This.


Becuase you know what is bad design full stop you dumb ass.. the fact is when you log out of your character you SHOULD be able to go back to your char selection screen, just like most applications do and just like most games do.. does that answer you dumb troll?
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-03-13 20:28:15 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.

Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?


If it's even an issue at all, in CCP's "eyes", it's so far down on the "To Do" list as to have a priority somewhere on par with shovelling whale shyte at the bottom of the ocean.

Technically, CCP has better things to do with it's time.


like? i mean you obviously know EXACTLY what CCPs backlog is, and it sounds like you are the person with all the answers. So please share. I would really love to hear from such a knowledgeable guy like your self.
Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2015-03-13 20:37:56 UTC
Not gonna happen. Stop whining about it.

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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-03-13 20:40:53 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Not gonna happen. Stop whining about it.



no
Serene Repose
#20 - 2015-03-13 20:44:19 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Not gonna happen. Stop whining about it.
He's tryin' real hard to make friends around here.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

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