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Kill counts on ship hulls
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-03-12 18:30:23 UTC
Yes friends, its time to request this glorious mechanic again...

[queue Top Gun "Danger Zone" music]

Imagine.

...on the side of all of your ships you would have that breakdown of other ships you killed. Instead of tanks or artillery pieces depicted in the image, you would have breakdown by ship class (i.e. frigs, cruisers, BS's, capitals, etc)

EvE's ships are beautiful to look at, but just imagine how much more so they would be if you could do a 'look at' on another players ship, and see without googling his zkillboard if he's a badass or not.

For debate is whether or not the counts would be tied to a specific hull, and when that ship explodes the counts reset or not. Also for debate would be if a player could choose to hide them.

Discuss.

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Would you like to know more?
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-03-12 18:51:04 UTC
If everyone gets 0.1% dmg, who gets the mark? Or does everyone get a piece so that everyone can feel like a winner?Cool
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-03-12 18:56:09 UTC

It would be interesting to be able to sell these ships with the kill counts intact. High kill count vessels from famous space people could be good luck charms for lesser pilots or collector's items..

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sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-03-12 18:58:13 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

It would be interesting to be able to sell these ships with the kill counts intact. High kill count vessels from famous space people could be good luck charms for lesser pilots or collector's items..



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Reina Xyaer
Tha Lench Mob
#5 - 2015-03-12 19:16:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Reina Xyaer
+1 if it only goes to the ship that gets the final blow.

Also should be viewable in the Info window for that ship, not just painted on the hull.

Edit: Maybe final blow AND top damage, nobody else.
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#6 - 2015-03-12 19:27:27 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

It would be interesting to be able to sell these ships with the kill counts intact. High kill count vessels from famous space people could be good luck charms for lesser pilots or collector's items..




Your avatar is perfect for the forums. That is the same face i make after reading some of the stuff that gets posted around here.

To the OP, id be ok with it. I just predict it might be a nightmare to code. If you repackage the ship, would that erase the killcount?

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Memphis Baas
#7 - 2015-03-12 19:49:11 UTC
Just replace the Right-click -> Show Info function in-game to open the killboard score directly, instead of showing bland info on the pilot.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#8 - 2015-03-12 19:59:33 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
If everyone gets 0.1% dmg, who gets the mark? Or does everyone get a piece so that everyone can feel like a winner?Cool



Just like kms final blows


and there was an 07 show where the art team talked about how they were looking at doing this with ships along with having the paint degrade

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Kabark
Schilden
#9 - 2015-03-12 20:57:20 UTC
I like this much more than the permanent name suggestion. I support it.
Atomeon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-03-12 21:08:31 UTC
It will be abused like hell, can kill hundreds of velators at null or elsewhere P
Kabark
Schilden
#11 - 2015-03-12 21:15:29 UTC
Atomeon wrote:
It will be abused like hell, can kill hundreds of velators at null or elsewhere P

And what? Have a rookie ship decal with MXXVII painted on the side of your ship and a ton of rookie ship kills on you ships info? I think that would make you look like a scrub.
Atomeon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-03-12 21:29:49 UTC
Kabark wrote:
Atomeon wrote:
It will be abused like hell, can kill hundreds of velators at null or elsewhere P

And what? Have a rookie ship decal with MXXVII painted on the side of your ship and a ton of rookie ship kills on you ships info? I think that would make you look like a scrub.

No. I meant i can get a taranis for example and kill my friends velator 200 times in null sec, thats all.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#13 - 2015-03-12 21:33:41 UTC
Atomeon wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Atomeon wrote:
It will be abused like hell, can kill hundreds of velators at null or elsewhere P

And what? Have a rookie ship decal with MXXVII painted on the side of your ship and a ton of rookie ship kills on you ships info? I think that would make you look like a scrub.

No. I meant i can get a taranis for example and kill my friends velator 200 times in null sec, thats all.



Not like that would really matter for the most part you would be the only one that would bother to look at your ship

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#14 - 2015-03-12 21:39:44 UTC
So long as the ship kill count is valid only for that ship that made the kills.

In other words: the kills do not transfer across hulls or ship loss. P

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2015-03-12 21:51:00 UTC
Why on earth would I want to hand out free intel to literally everyone in space?

I'd really rather not have to ditch my rigs, or even my whole ship, every tie I got home from a roam.

Not supported, ESPECIALLY if you're dumb enough to propose it be somehow persistent and non-optional.
Reina Xyaer
Tha Lench Mob
#16 - 2015-03-12 22:05:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Reina Xyaer
Atomeon wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Atomeon wrote:
It will be abused like hell, can kill hundreds of velators at null or elsewhere P

And what? Have a rookie ship decal with MXXVII painted on the side of your ship and a ton of rookie ship kills on you ships info? I think that would make you look like a scrub.

No. I meant i can get a taranis for example and kill my friends velator 200 times in null sec, thats all.



Yea, again... so you now have 200 VELATOR kills painted on your hull. Which makes you look like an idiot who killed your friend's Velator 200 times to give your hull 200 "tick marks".

First of all... abused? Who would care? You could spam ROOKIE ship kill marks on your hulls? Great, everyone could see they are Rookie ships, and call you out for the stat padding scrub you are.

Secondly... a simple common sense "fix" for this non-issue would be to make Rookie ships NOT give tick marks. EZ
Lugh Crow-Slave
#17 - 2015-03-12 22:34:25 UTC
Reina Xyaer wrote:
Atomeon wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Atomeon wrote:
It will be abused like hell, can kill hundreds of velators at null or elsewhere P

And what? Have a rookie ship decal with MXXVII painted on the side of your ship and a ton of rookie ship kills on you ships info? I think that would make you look like a scrub.

No. I meant i can get a taranis for example and kill my friends velator 200 times in null sec, thats all.



Yea, again... so you now have 200 VELATOR kills painted on your hull. Which makes you look like an idiot who killed your friend's Velator 200 times to give your hull 200 "tick marks".

First of all... abused? Who would care? You could spam ROOKIE ship kill marks on your hulls? Great, everyone could see they are Rookie ships, and call you out for the stat padding scrub you are.

Secondly... a simple common sense "fix" for this non-issue would be to make Rookie ships NOT give tick marks. EZ



making a distinction between types of ships killed is far more effort than needed for this

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Jenshae Chiroptera
#18 - 2015-03-13 00:40:01 UTC
More unique things = more lag.

Just use a naming convention on your ship.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-03-13 00:53:49 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
I would be really cool to have a ship be able to have a sort of history as long as the ship name isn't changed (name changes as a reset would easily fix the issue with additional intel I think). It would be awesome to have famous ships be able to function as collectors items. This is probably a lot of storage space on the database, but I would love to be able to buy a ship through contracts if it were flown by specific players.

As for the lag comment, adding a table to the database with shipID and shipName tied to a string with the history, and having the history be a separate tab under show info should eliminate any increase in lag during normal gameplay. All of the technical issues in doing this I think have been solved when CCP made ship attributes include changes when you show info on the ship you're flying.

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JetStream Drenard
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#20 - 2015-03-13 03:05:28 UTC
I want to know the full and complete history of every ship I fly. Was I the first owner? How many owners before me? Who were they? You know, because I can never find the title.
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