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Is it time 2 get rid f the size restrictions on ship hull turret boni?

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Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
CAStabouts
#1 - 2015-03-12 11:54:30 UTC
Meaning; instead of '10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage (per level)',
there'd be, like '10% bonus to [ALL] Hybrid Turret damage (per level)'.

How would it change the *buzzword*META*triggered*?

A Titan fielding fully bonused [Cruiser/BS]-sized guns? A Hyperion w/ fully-bonused small guns as a dedicated anti-frigate platform?

Discuss.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2015-03-12 12:01:50 UTC
Impossible to balance.
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
CAStabouts
#3 - 2015-03-12 12:28:41 UTC
Balance, SCHMALANCE.

Let's just mull over it for some time, shall we?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-03-12 12:31:18 UTC
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
Balance, SCHMALANCE.

Let's just mull over it for some time, shall we?


I just did and it's still broken.
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
CAStabouts
#5 - 2015-03-12 12:32:15 UTC
That's the Spirit!
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#6 - 2015-03-12 12:59:17 UTC
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
Meaning; instead of '10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage (per level)',
there'd be, like '10% bonus to [ALL] Hybrid Turret damage (per level)'.



I wouldn't mind a new module allowing large (and why not capital too?) turrets to sacrifice 50% of their DPS for extra tracking. Like the bastion module, 60sec duration, damage -50%, tracking + 75%.

Would be quite useless for PVE, but would greatly help battleship or capitals ships (mainly dreadnought...) in PVP if more tracking is needed.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#7 - 2015-03-12 13:20:53 UTC
we do have smaller weapons that are a 1 step down for the cruisers and battleships but they are broke last I heard and still no get the bonuses of the ship despite it being the size for the ship. like "dual 250mm Railgun" is made for anti-cruiser using large rounds but the large gun bonus of a battleship doesn't apply....unless they fixed it by now which I doubt

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Zura Namee
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-03-12 14:47:41 UTC
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
Meaning; instead of '10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage (per level)',
there'd be, like '10% bonus to [ALL] Hybrid Turret damage (per level)'.

How would it change the *buzzword*META*triggered*?

A Titan fielding fully bonused [Cruiser/BS]-sized guns? A Hyperion w/ fully-bonused small guns as a dedicated anti-frigate platform?

Discuss.


And what happens when a dread using cruiser sized guns goes into siege, still gets insane DPS while having enough tracking to ruin everything around it?
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-03-12 14:52:47 UTC
Zura Namee wrote:
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
Meaning; instead of '10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage (per level)',
there'd be, like '10% bonus to [ALL] Hybrid Turret damage (per level)'.

How would it change the *buzzword*META*triggered*?

A Titan fielding fully bonused [Cruiser/BS]-sized guns? A Hyperion w/ fully-bonused small guns as a dedicated anti-frigate platform?

Discuss.


And what happens when a dread using cruiser sized guns goes into siege, still gets insane DPS while having enough tracking to ruin everything around it?


Yeah Dreadfleets inc :D

Was about time right ?

Just kidding
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#10 - 2015-03-12 14:52:47 UTC
Agondray wrote:
we do have smaller weapons that are a 1 step down for the cruisers and battleships but they are broke last I heard and still no get the bonuses of the ship despite it being the size for the ship. like "dual 250mm Railgun" is made for anti-cruiser using large rounds but the large gun bonus of a battleship doesn't apply....unless they fixed it by now which I doubt


I have never heard this to be the case.

I am not saying that Dual 250mm Railguns are a great weapon, just I have not heard that they are broken in the way you describe.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#11 - 2015-03-12 14:54:48 UTC
Personally, I don't think it is an idea I would dismiss completely out of hand. I'll mull this one over some more.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
CAStabouts
#12 - 2015-03-12 15:10:16 UTC
Zura Namee wrote:
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
Meaning; instead of '10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage (per level)',
there'd be, like '10% bonus to [ALL] Hybrid Turret damage (per level)'.

How would it change the *buzzword*META*triggered*?

A Titan fielding fully bonused [Cruiser/BS]-sized guns? A Hyperion w/ fully-bonused small guns as a dedicated anti-frigate platform?

Discuss.


And what happens when a dread using cruiser sized guns goes into siege, still gets insane DPS while having enough tracking to ruin everything around it?


..that is one of many reasons why I proposed to DISCUSS about this.
Tusker Crazinski
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-03-12 15:11:39 UTC
Not going to like I'd love to fit buffed med guns to attack battlecruisers.
Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
#14 - 2015-03-12 15:42:46 UTC
I actually don't think this would be too out-of-balance.

A Rokh fitted with small guns would spoil the fun of a bunch of small ships. But it would loose a fight against another Rokh fitted with proper large guns. If you fit to pick on the little guys then you won't be able to handle someone your own size. That sounds fair.

Just make sure the siege DPS bonus to dreadnoughts only applies to guns of its proper weight-class.
Ravasta Helugo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-03-12 15:48:40 UTC
It works for the Rattlesnake.

I'm giving it +1
thatonepersone
Black Jack 0-1
#16 - 2015-03-12 16:06:41 UTC
As is right now most of the damage comes from a dreadnought come from the fact that it's using capital sized weapons and the seige module. In aura it shows that the seige module just gives a generic damage bonus to all weapons. If that's true a tread fit with 3x cruise missile launchers fit can do the dps of 25. I will have to try this out on the test server...
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#17 - 2015-03-12 18:53:19 UTC
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
Discuss.

What about bonuses like tracking speed, optimal range, falloff, rate of fire, explosion radius, explosion velocity and missile velocity? Would these also bonuses also apply to all weapons regardless of size?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-03-12 19:01:53 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Impossible to balance.


SBs can kill that Hyperion with small guns at a tenth of the isk.
Already balanced - because we already have small hulls with large weapons, with great bonuses.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2015-03-12 21:33:44 UTC
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