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Feoria Saissore
Evil League of Evil Corp
#1 - 2015-03-11 02:23:50 UTC
Fairly simple ideas. I think would be nice for some of us who spend a lot of time jumping through space to be able to switch to a first person mode. Lets you see what goes on inside the pod or a simple GUI that lets you navigate your ship from the inside rather than out. Imho it would add a new level of immersion for us. Something simple would be more than sufficient.

2nd Idea is an expansion of the captain's quarters we already have. There is a door that leads to "the rest of the space-station" and it's been there a while not doing anything. Why not put in a cantina or bar for RP/socializing. Could as be used as a small isk sink while your not doing anything rather than sitting in station spinning ships.


I think these small additions could add some extra flavor to this amazing game.

"All I'm sayin is, if The Doctor wanted to save our universe, all he has to do is go back in time and get Firefly back on the air."
Madd Adda
#2 - 2015-03-11 02:28:36 UTC
you're in a goo-filled pod, what's to see? your mind is connected to all the systems inherently if i recall correctly

Carebear extraordinaire
Feoria Saissore
Evil League of Evil Corp
#3 - 2015-03-11 02:30:35 UTC
This may be true, but ships also have crews that run some of the systems, so I don't think showing the view from the bridge would be too far off the lore

"All I'm sayin is, if The Doctor wanted to save our universe, all he has to do is go back in time and get Firefly back on the air."
Kabark
Schilden
#4 - 2015-03-11 02:47:00 UTC
This has been an idea proposed as old as EVE itself. I don't think there are very many people that would disagree with being able to walk around or see the insides of their ship, however it has always been a low priory non-gameplay additive. That is why we have been waiting years since the introduction of Captains Quarters to walk around the station. I would absolutely love to role play in my ship. I would name one of my corpses as first mate, sneak into the women's showers, and build an ever growing plaque of the names of crewman lost aboard my previous ships. Seriously though it would be great but I don't think the DEVs would ever make this a priority.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2015-03-11 03:01:24 UTC
eve is in first person you see what your pilot is seeing


your nerviouse system is hooked right into your ship itself you feel what it feels and see with the camera drones become your eyes

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Lugh Crow-Slave
#6 - 2015-03-11 03:02:16 UTC
Feoria Saissore wrote:
This may be true, but ships also have crews that run some of the systems, so I don't think showing the view from the bridge would be too far off the lore



no they have crew to maintain the ship that's it

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Kabark
Schilden
#7 - 2015-03-11 03:17:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kabark
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Feoria Saissore wrote:
This may be true, but ships also have crews that run some of the systems, so I don't think showing the view from the bridge would be too far off the lore



no they have crew to maintain the ship that's it

I haven't checked in a while but according to lore, a battleship sized vessel piloted by a capsules has a crew of 100-300 correct? Do you have the link to that page?
Correction, 15-100 for battleship.
Correction again, I was right the first time. 100-300.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines
M'pact
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-03-11 03:31:47 UTC
The pod pilot is the only "bridge crew" left on capsuleer ships. Being hooked directly into the ship systems makes anybody else obsolete.

Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHH_MHd0c94

Don't you think that there would be other crew members shown doing things like the hacking in the frigate, and a tactical officer yelling about the damage the cruiser is taking, if there were others on the bridge? Surely CCP would show them if they were there.

There may** be other people maintaining engineering and weapons and such, but the capsuleer is the only one in command. Therefore, they are the only one on the bridge.

** You can believe what you wish, but in my EVE, the only human aboard capsuleer ships is the capsuleer. Ammo loading is taken care of by automated systems, and maintenance is done by specialized automatons/drones designed specifically for such purposes. Makes more sense to me, as automatons/drones and automated systems have no fear, no fatigue, and no feelings, and they react faster than humans. They are better for loading and maintenance purposes. Tactics and strategy, however, are done better by humans, which is why a human capsuleer is still needed for command.

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Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...
Lugh Crow-Slave
#9 - 2015-03-11 03:33:29 UTC
Kabark wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Feoria Saissore wrote:
This may be true, but ships also have crews that run some of the systems, so I don't think showing the view from the bridge would be too far off the lore



no they have crew to maintain the ship that's it

I haven't checked in a while but according to lore, a battleship sized vessel piloted by a capsules has a crew of 100-300 correct? Do you have the link to that page?
Correction, 15-100 for battleship.
Correction again, I was right the first time. 100-300.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines


Yes and they are just there to keep the ship(and crew on larger ships) running nothing more this is why minim recs on pod ships are so much lower

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
M'pact
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-03-11 03:35:40 UTC
Kabark wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Feoria Saissore wrote:
This may be true, but ships also have crews that run some of the systems, so I don't think showing the view from the bridge would be too far off the lore



no they have crew to maintain the ship that's it

I haven't checked in a while but according to lore, a battleship sized vessel piloted by a capsules has a crew of 100-300 correct? Do you have the link to that page?
Correction, 15-100 for battleship.
Correction again, I was right the first time. 100-300.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines

Yeah, those 100-300 are for maintaining the systems. The capsuleer is the only one in command. Having other humans in command positions would be much less efficient, and would negate any advantage gained by having the capsuleer plugged directly into the ship.

When I finally do make an impact on this universe, it will reverberate across the entirety of it, and no one will be able to truthfully claim they don't know me. - -

Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...
Feoria Saissore
Evil League of Evil Corp
#11 - 2015-03-11 03:44:09 UTC
Still, the argument can be made that a bridge would be on the ships and I'm sure we could do a inside the ship kind of view, it would be extremely low on the dev to do list, but it would be awesome for cosmetic appeal.

"All I'm sayin is, if The Doctor wanted to save our universe, all he has to do is go back in time and get Firefly back on the air."
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-03-11 04:21:31 UTC
Feoria Saissore wrote:
This may be true, but ships also have crews that run some of the systems, so I don't think showing the view from the bridge would be too far off the lore

the bridge isnt there anymore, its removed to make room for the pod and its support equipment
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2015-03-11 05:07:38 UTC
Switch to first-person view.. see black.


You are in a metal egg full of jelly.. what are you expecting to see?



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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#14 - 2015-03-11 09:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
Feoria Saissore wrote:
This may be true, but ships also have crews that run some of the systems, so I don't think showing the view from the bridge would be too far off the lore


Yours may have a crew, personally I always open the airlocks and internal bulkheads for a bit after undocking to make sure such unwanted biological contaminants are flushed from my systems.

As to your proposal why would I want to limit myself to an internal or first person view?

As to your cantina idea, don't see much point in it to be honest the time and resources required could be better spent elsewhere.

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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-11 09:43:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
"fairly simple ideas" "small additions" (guess you know how to implement this sort of thing in 20mins?) seems like a waste of time just like walking in stations ideas that rp'ers keep requesting, again it gives people an alternative to undocking and playing the game

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-03-11 15:18:53 UTC
Must be something interesting about Gallente ships since you want to mingle with your crew...
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Iain Cariaba
#17 - 2015-03-11 15:55:35 UTC
M'pact wrote:
You can believe what you wish, but in my EVE, the only human aboard capsuleer ships is the capsuleer. Ammo loading is taken care of by automated systems, and maintenance is done by specialized automatons/drones designed specifically for such purposes. Makes more sense to me, as automatons/drones and automated systems have no fear, no fatigue, and no feelings, and they react faster than humans. They are better for loading and maintenance purposes. Tactics and strategy, however, are done better by humans, which is why a human capsuleer is still needed for command.

Hey look, we play the same EvE.

As to OP's idea. No. No to pretty much any idea that provides no content to the game, and will be ignored by most once the shiney factor wears off. If you wnt to watch a bridge scene while you autopilot, alt-tab out and watch a random Star Trek episode. Make a game out of it to see if your ship in EvE survives to the first red alert of the episode.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2015-03-12 10:10:21 UTC
You should get to walk around your ship while autopiloting, and then when you are being shot you can scramble back to your pod and struggle to get in so your SP will be saved. Risk Vs ReWaRD AMIriTe

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#19 - 2015-03-12 11:14:59 UTC
There's a Captain's Quarters?

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2015-03-12 11:30:44 UTC
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