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T2 Salvage Drones are overdue

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Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
CAStabouts
#1 - 2015-03-10 12:55:48 UTC
So yeah, feel free to listen to this funny story; this here (T1) Salvage Drone just spent half an hour (I **** You not) orbiting & trying to salvage yonder Shadow Serpentis Spy wreck.

'Your salvaging attempt failed the 352nd time.'

T2 Salvage Drones are SO overdue.

Discuss.
Iain Cariaba
#2 - 2015-03-10 12:58:06 UTC
Get a noctis, that's what it's for.
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#3 - 2015-03-10 13:13:06 UTC
There are more than one or two choices of tools that are suitable to achieve the aim you have of salvaging a faction spawn wreck.


Instead of using a blunt tool for the job use one of the appropriate tools rather than asking the GMs for a skeleton key.

Priorities would put Tech II Salvage Drones near the bottom of the list for game improvements anyway.

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"

Zura Namee
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-03-10 13:40:39 UTC
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
So yeah, feel free to listen to this funny story; this here (T1) Salvage Drone just spent half an hour (I **** You not) orbiting & trying to salvage yonder Shadow Serpentis Spy wreck.

'Your salvaging attempt failed the 352nd time.'

T2 Salvage Drones are SO overdue.

Discuss.


A mobile depot and salvager in the cargo hold would have saved you many tears. Or just use a ship with a utility high. Or make a bookmark and go get an appropriate ship. Long story short, there's a bunch of options that are far better than watching for half an hour as a terrible drone fails to do anything.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#5 - 2015-03-10 14:31:33 UTC
I hate to be "that guy", but...

...search bar? Top right? Ring a bell?

And, as others have said, the more dedicated alternatives need to remain as dominate ones in comparison to any T2 Salvage drone proposal. Let's face it, CCP will not likely go with something that overshadows the Noctis and Salvagers. T2 salvagers could have much better tank or be a bit faster for instance, but something like buffing the access difficulty multiplier is not a solid suggestion.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-03-10 15:22:31 UTC
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
So yeah, feel free to listen to this funny story; this here (T1) Salvage Drone just spent half an hour (I **** You not) orbiting & trying to salvage yonder Shadow Serpentis Spy wreck.

'Your salvaging attempt failed the 352nd time.'

T2 Salvage Drones are SO overdue.

Discuss.


Mmh if CCP would make a ship for that i would be a cov ops frig or called noctis. But nah lets make this more automatic. Just use a salvager and stop whining about it.

No T2 Salvage drones needed.

-1
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-03-10 15:27:00 UTC
My 5x Salvage drones sometime work faster than my t2 salvaging module... Just saying
Madd Adda
#8 - 2015-03-10 19:35:39 UTC
I wouldn't ask for t2 salvage drones, I would ask for them to change the behavior of present salvage drones to ignore faction and other things they can't salvage.

Carebear extraordinaire

nVus Antollare
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-03-10 21:29:10 UTC
Hull repair drones were rolled after salvage drones, right? Even they've got TII versions and Heavies.
But like most things, you didn't know you need them until you need them and don't have them.
Paul1
Kappa Federation
#10 - 2015-03-10 22:24:09 UTC
Id be happy with a AI tweak that made salvage drones split up and hit different targets when focus fire was unselected.
I guess you could call it a fix as this is the purpose of this tick box is it not?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#11 - 2015-03-10 22:51:27 UTC
salvage drones are just their to supplement your salvaging they aren't meant to be the dedicated system to do it
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#12 - 2015-03-10 23:48:52 UTC
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman wrote:
Discuss.

I'd be content with medium salvage drones that could simultaneously salvage two wrecks with shorter cycle times.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#13 - 2015-03-11 01:53:37 UTC
Have you trained Salvage Drones to V? Because I am pretty sure you haven't or they would have succeeded.
Ibrahim Vaughn Holtzman
the holtzman experience
CAStabouts
#14 - 2015-03-12 11:36:20 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
salvage drones are just their to supplement your salvaging they aren't meant to be the dedicated system to do it


Now THAT is new to me! Who said that please?! (inb4/ 'Me.')
Daimus Daranius
Warcrows
Sedition.
#15 - 2015-03-12 12:05:11 UTC
I just made a post in another thread about skills that are not worth training to V no matter how many SP you have, but forgot to mention Salvage Drone Operation which might even deserve to have a top spot on that list. Introducing T2 Salvage Drones might change that, though. Though they would still be near-worthless.

Amarr Victor!

Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-03-12 12:51:53 UTC
Salvage drones have already replaced salvagers for a lot of pilots. Salvage ships need more reasons, not less.

-1
Nothing Interesting
Nothing Interesting Corporation
#17 - 2015-03-16 10:41:43 UTC
Paul1 wrote:
Id be happy with a AI tweak that made salvage drones split up and hit different targets when focus fire was unselected.
I guess you could call it a fix as this is the purpose of this tick box is it not?


This is the most important thing mentioned in this thread. That tick box is a joke. Even if i have it ticked it, unless i dont order my combat drones manually to attack the same target, after some time they will split and attack different target. I get it that some bugs just remain, but why the **** do salvage drones ALWAYS focus the same target, doesnt matter if focus fire is ticked or not ...

I dont mind that salvage drones have worse access chance, as you should be rewarded for actively salvaging and not just semi-aft, like with drones. But wth is with the focus fire function, it doesnt work at all.
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#18 - 2015-03-16 13:42:41 UTC
Get imicus with salvage rigs, then t2 salvagers speed back to bookmark and clean the place up?
Noctis only bonus is having more range for tractors.
Vanadium1
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-03-16 13:52:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanadium1
Nothing Interesting wrote:
Paul1 wrote:
Id be happy with a AI tweak that made salvage drones split up and hit different targets when focus fire was unselected.
I guess you could call it a fix as this is the purpose of this tick box is it not?


This is the most important thing mentioned in this thread. That tick box is a joke. Even if i have it ticked it, unless i dont order my combat drones manually to attack the same target, after some time they will split and attack different target. I get it that some bugs just remain, but why the **** do salvage drones ALWAYS focus the same target, doesnt matter if focus fire is ticked or not ...

I dont mind that salvage drones have worse access chance, as you should be rewarded for actively salvaging and not just semi-aft, like with drones. But wth is with the focus fire function, it doesnt work at all.

I guess that tick box doesn't affect salvage drones at all. But they DO NOT always target the same target. As far as I know they target the nearest wreck to your ship. So when I begin to fly around wrecks the drones begin to target different ones.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2015-03-16 14:54:58 UTC
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
There are more than one or two choices of tools that are suitable to achieve the aim you have of salvaging a faction spawn wreck.


Instead of using a blunt tool for the job use one of the appropriate tools rather than asking the GMs for a skeleton key.

Priorities would put Tech II Salvage Drones near the bottom of the list for game improvements anyway.

we need tech 2, faction, deadspace, and officer variants of ALL modules that do not currently possess them. on the DED and Officer mods, this would actually be an improvement, as officer/deadspace mods would drop just as often as now, but less often of specific ones due to a larger loot table, meaning prices/value go up again, as well as having more expensive fail-fits getting ganked in nullsec.
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