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CCP Fozzie and His nerf super ordeal.
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xxVastorxx
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-09 22:36:33 UTC
okay we all know CCP fozzie wants to make supers into giant Boosting ships. Shocked

However if you want to think totally out of the box how about this for a better idea, so super pilots dont turn into Giant red hulks

- Super capitals can only target and use drones for Anti capital support, ie only be able to target other capital ships. and do damage to other capital ships.

- Put in a smartbomb bonus for supers so they have some way to protect themselfs against Tackling light dictors 5% increase radius for smartbombs,

- this one may or may not work, but here goes, Put in a Module like a siege module sort of deal for The pilots that want to use there ship as a booster, once activated cant get reps cant fight cant even smartbomb, just sits there like a dread would but doesnt get a increase to tank and all that jazz same HP etc,

my 2 cents,

Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2015-03-09 22:46:33 UTC
None of which adress the issue of 'what is the point of a supercapital' the new sov system is going to bring in. Hell, with your ideas, you can't even rat in them.
xxVastorxx
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-03-09 22:52:38 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
None of which adress the issue of 'what is the point of a supercapital' the new sov system is going to bring in. Hell, with your ideas, you can't even rat in them.



Ratting in a 30Bill isk ship is just about as dumb as mining in a 100B titan.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#4 - 2015-03-09 23:13:47 UTC
xxVastorxx wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
None of which adress the issue of 'what is the point of a supercapital' the new sov system is going to bring in. Hell, with your ideas, you can't even rat in them.


Ratting in a 30Bill isk ship is just about as dumb as mining in a 100B titan.


Eh, it's silly inefficient considering the amount of isk it costs to make one.

But those people crazy enough to do it can pull down some serious cash in a hurry.

I wouldn't, but if someone wants to rat in a super and create an eventual shiny KM, more power to them I guess.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-03-09 23:19:31 UTC
xxVastorxx wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
None of which adress the issue of 'what is the point of a supercapital' the new sov system is going to bring in. Hell, with your ideas, you can't even rat in them.



Ratting in a 30Bill isk ship is just about as dumb as mining in a 100B titan.



Yes, but at least ratting in a nyx is a reason to use one.

Under your ideas, there isn't even that. There would not be any point in ever resubbing a super pilot's account.
vikari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-03-10 02:40:09 UTC
CCP should teleport them to the nearest station (in most cases that is the system you are in) and offer a perfect reprocessing event. This would let us get rid of them once and for all, and those that don't take it and sit there and let them rot...unused. At least we can get our money back then.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#7 - 2015-03-10 03:43:48 UTC
Eh. Happens

Yaay!!!!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2015-03-10 05:49:31 UTC
vikari wrote:
CCP should teleport them to the nearest station (in most cases that is the system you are in) and offer a perfect reprocessing event. This would let us get rid of them once and for all, and those that don't take it and sit there and let them rot...unused. At least we can get our money back then.


I would rather teleport them into the heart of a dying star and crush them that way.
Aran Hotchkiss
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-03-10 06:07:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
vikari wrote:
CCP should teleport them to the nearest station (in most cases that is the system you are in) and offer a perfect reprocessing event. This would let us get rid of them once and for all, and those that don't take it and sit there and let them rot...unused. At least we can get our money back then.


I would rather teleport them into the heart of a dying star and crush them that way.


I don't think the star would have to be dying for it to be crushed :3 - the gravity's already strong enough to support nuclear fusion after all

You should have enough control over your herd of cats to make them understand. If they constantly make misstakes, get better cats.
Memphis Baas
#10 - 2015-03-10 09:41:36 UTC
vikari wrote:
CCP should teleport them to the nearest station (in most cases that is the system you are in) and offer a perfect reprocessing event. At least we can get our money back then.


Um, ok, so capitals are worthless.
You turn them into a pile of minerals and production materials, which crashes the markets for minerals and materials.
Minerals and materials become worthless.
Then everything manufactured from minerals and materials, including subcap ships and modules, becomes worthless.
How exactly are you getting your ISK back?

My proposal would be a button to turn the capital into a hair style, hat, piercing button, necklace, brooch, belt buckle, or tattoo, so that the portrait can reflect the pilot's past glory and status. Or a pilot jacket with the ship emblazoned on its back in high detail (though it won't be as visible in the portrait).
Mudd3
Banana-Republic.
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2015-03-10 11:47:22 UTC
vikari wrote:
CCP should teleport them to the nearest station (in most cases that is the system you are in) and offer a perfect reprocessing event. This would let us get rid of them once and for all, and those that don't take it and sit there and let them rot...unused. At least we can get our money back then.


They should be reprocessed to monocles.
Anthar Thebess
#12 - 2015-03-10 11:56:06 UTC
Eve without supers will be excellent game.
When CCP will also adjust carrier remote reps it will be even better ( proposal how to do it in my signature).

Capitals , and supers alone are ok.
Problem arises when you combine them , especially in big numbers.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-03-10 13:38:01 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
vikari wrote:
CCP should teleport them to the nearest station (in most cases that is the system you are in) and offer a perfect reprocessing event. At least we can get our money back then.


Um, ok, so capitals are worthless.
You turn them into a pile of minerals and production materials, which crashes the markets for minerals and materials.
Minerals and materials become worthless.
Then everything manufactured from minerals and materials, including subcap ships and modules, becomes worthless.
How exactly are you getting your ISK back?

My proposal would be a button to turn the capital into a hair style, hat, piercing button, necklace, brooch, belt buckle, or tattoo, so that the portrait can reflect the pilot's past glory and status. Or a pilot jacket with the ship emblazoned on its back in high detail (though it won't be as visible in the portrait).


They could become amusement parks for Fedos.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Memphis Baas
#14 - 2015-03-10 13:52:37 UTC
OOh! Minigame! You get a window with the outline of your ship, and just like the hacking minigame, you click on the hot spots to prevent the spread of fedos.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-10 13:58:07 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
OOh! Minigame! You get a window with the outline of your ship, and just like the hacking minigame, you click on the hot spots to prevent the spread of fedos.


You could get giant space hammers and play whack-A-fedo...

naturally tech II giant space hammers can be invented
Itrala
Trains Awesomeness
#16 - 2015-03-13 00:29:59 UTC
Maybe because they are carrier, they should be the combat carrier, stuck with fighter and FB.

No remote rep capability, but a DPS type bonus attached to it.

Nerf the FB damage worst to worst and make them only capable of targeting capital class ships. anyway they dont do much
damage against non capital.

EHP wise, 2X the carrier so in the vicinity of 5-6M EHP, so not too much and buffed enough to make it worth the price a bit.

Cost: mineral wise, 1.5 times the carrier cost, and the price difference in minerals would be riembursed to the pilot, (at ME10 so the less minerals are distributed)

They could dock because they are still capable of doing something that is not too OP for the game while retaining a capability of doing something worth while.

Carrier would lose DPS and because LOGI machine like they are now. (RIP slowcat and other variation and RIP ratting carrier)

a Thought....
Jenshae Chiroptera
#17 - 2015-03-13 00:38:30 UTC
On the other thread I said they should give the pilots the skill points back, a heap of redeemable ships and delete supers and titans. Blink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-03-13 01:08:19 UTC
Proposal, all super's pilots (who are not supporting Fozzie's ideas) solo or Corps or Allinces may think to form the biggest supercap blobs and invade into high sec right before or right after summer expansion. That's gonna be even louder and greater than titanomachy... There is enough time to work out logistics issues and move those next to nearesr high sec.

The other scenario is make 24 hrs event when everyone log on and then self destruct.

Kind of thoughts...

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Promiscuous Medusa
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-03-13 01:28:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Promiscuous Medusa
I think they should be made more powerful but have targetable subsystems. Knocking out all sub systems destroys the ship but you can take them in any order. Take out its guns, its drones, it DD, its reps, its jump drive (would have a high HP) it warp drive etc... Can be repaired using paste much like mods but can also be repaired from 0% hp and doesnt shut the system down while repping though coming from 0% it wouldnt come back online till 50%. Also new rigs, one for each subsusytem to add HP. Maybe you want to rig so your doomsday doesnt get put offline, but then you get your jump drive toasted and you end up stranded. Also not all subs would be at the same side of the ship forcing manoeuvring fleets.

Could lead to some fun, out of paste, dead jump drive floating in space waiting on corpmates to come help ;)
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-03-13 02:27:11 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
vikari wrote:
CCP should teleport them to the nearest station (in most cases that is the system you are in) and offer a perfect reprocessing event. At least we can get our money back then.


Um, ok, so capitals are worthless.
You turn them into a pile of minerals and production materials, which crashes the markets for minerals and materials.
Minerals and materials become worthless.
Then everything manufactured from minerals and materials, including subcap ships and modules, becomes worthless.
How exactly are you getting your ISK back?

My proposal would be a button to turn the capital into a hair style, hat, piercing button, necklace, brooch, belt buckle, or tattoo, so that the portrait can reflect the pilot's past glory and status. Or a pilot jacket with the ship emblazoned on its back in high detail (though it won't be as visible in the portrait).


there are not that many supercaps to crash the market upon reprocess

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
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