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CCP Loktofeit
C C P
C C P Alliance
#21 - 2015-03-09 17:45:16 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
Max Kolonko wrote:
Finally. I decided to not vote this year untill ccp tells me its time to vote. And they did one day before deadline :) fix your election communication ccp. It was fine last year. Its crap again this year


Well, to a certain degree, you're talking to the right person, as I do some of the banners and messaging for the election.

So, when you're done voting, come back to this thread and let me know what we could do better about the reach, cadence, message, or whatever it is you feel we could improve upon.



help me

help you




More banners, larger banners, Larger flashier static banner on launcher, larger static banner on character screen. More links to sites that can help guide people towards the right candidate or to information about candidates. Drill home the importance of the CSM on the community site with a large highly visible banner link to the voting site. CSM links on ALL Eve related sites. Its not that hard to freakin carpet bomb and idiot proof.

On the other hand, no matter how much more you do, there will still be those who claim they didn't vote because they weren't informed.


Sounds like a plan. Will keep that in mind for minutes and summits, as well. We ran ads in most of our banner space over the course of the election. Maybe we need to run them more often. Thanks!
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#22 - 2015-03-09 17:48:42 UTC
I guess that free BPC for ten copies of a brand new type of shuttle to promote the elections wasn't enough for some people.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#23 - 2015-03-09 17:49:59 UTC
So you want high voter participation?

Gib free skillpoints, that´s how you get high voter participation!

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#24 - 2015-03-09 17:54:21 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
So you want high voter participation?

Gib free skillpoints, that´s how you get high voter participation!



They might as well...

I feel like all the year I've wasted training Skills wasted, The nubs nowadays get it so easy

But that's a Another topic for another time Blink

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Sarmatiko
#25 - 2015-03-09 17:56:14 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
Because there's no reason NOT to and it's just crazy that so many people don't, both in New Eden and RL.


There is no real reason why we should, because bloc votes are allowed, because buying votes is allowed, because there is no "vote against all candidates" option.
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-03-09 17:57:35 UTC
My voting process:
Get a spectre fleet EVE mail saying CSM is on. Click the link.
Vote for Jayne.
Submit.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-03-09 18:03:08 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
Max Kolonko wrote:
Finally. I decided to not vote this year untill ccp tells me its time to vote. And they did one day before deadline :) fix your election communication ccp. It was fine last year. Its crap again this year


Well, to a certain degree, you're talking to the right person, as I do some of the banners and messaging for the election.

So, when you're done voting, come back to this thread and let me know what we could do better about the reach, cadence, message, or whatever it is you feel we could improve upon.



help me

help you




More banners, larger banners, Larger flashier static banner on launcher, larger static banner on character screen. More links to sites that can help guide people towards the right candidate or to information about candidates. Drill home the importance of the CSM on the community site with a large highly visible banner link to the voting site. CSM links on ALL Eve related sites. Its not that hard to freakin carpet bomb and idiot proof.

On the other hand, no matter how much more you do, there will still be those who claim they didn't vote because they weren't informed.


Sounds like a plan. Will keep that in mind for minutes and summits, as well. We ran ads in most of our banner space over the course of the election. Maybe we need to run them more often. Thanks!




If you only do banner and similar stuff, you will get poor return because most people have learned by now that banners are usually only useless ads. The banners on launcher are just as bad. I never read anything on it and I am pretty sure a lot of people do like me. There is also a shitload of people just bypassing said launcher because they hate it with a passion. The place to advertise to the whole community for it to be seen is IN GAME. That is the only place active player are sure to be at some point. Not the launcher, not the website, not blogs, not reddit, not any fan sites. The player base is inside the game. Find a way to reach out to them there.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Insidious.
#28 - 2015-03-09 18:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
I went to vote eve match and voted for the first 14 pro-ECM candidates.
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-03-09 18:23:52 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:

So, when you're done voting, come back to this thread and let me know what we could do better about the reach, cadence, message, or whatever it is you feel we could improve upon.


For the next CSM voting, please consider adding a "none of the above" option for those who don't mind voting, but don't find any of the candidates represents their own views properly.
Mimiko Severovski
Zero Fun Allowed
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#30 - 2015-03-09 18:29:56 UTC
Why vote, nyx is gonna be a claymore soon, its over.
CCP Loktofeit
C C P
C C P Alliance
#31 - 2015-03-09 18:33:16 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:

If you only do banner and similar stuff, you will get poor return because most people have learned by now that banners are usually only useless ads. The banners on launcher are just as bad. I never read anything on it and I am pretty sure a lot of people do like me. There is also a shitload of people just bypassing said launcher because they hate it with a passion. The place to advertise to the whole community for it to be seen is IN GAME. That is the only place active player are sure to be at some point. Not the launcher, not the website, not blogs, not reddit, not any fan sites. The player base is inside the game. Find a way to reach out to them there.


We also do news, devblogs and posts in several of the social media channels. In-game gets tricky, as CSM is more of a player thing not a pilot thing, and that goes into a grey area. I do get your point, though. If I could skywrite with my Polaris, I'd be scribbling the skies from Empire to nullsec with it.

There's also... a new video!

Adriana Mal'Valeran
Zero Fun Allowed
#32 - 2015-03-09 18:34:34 UTC
No.
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-03-09 18:39:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tuttomenui II
CCP Loktofeit wrote:


Sounds like a plan. Will keep that in mind for minutes and summits, as well. We ran ads in most of our banner space over the course of the election. Maybe we need to run them more often. Thanks!




Take away our free agency by giving us suspect flags until we vote. The mayhem will be glorious.

And I already voted Twisted...................................... Some dev blog said something about trinkets, and I am space hoarder.
Marsha Mallow
#34 - 2015-03-09 19:38:43 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
Vote for the trinkets.
Vote for the hell of it.
Vote to make a difference.

I voted for all of these reasons, but mainly for the entertainment. One of those trinkets better be a spoon or I'll be very disappointed.

The best way to get the zombies ingame to vote is to go to Jita or all of the hubs and offer ISK doubling services or start dueling noobs.

CCP Loktofeit wrote:
Hate the guy/gal/llama/cyborg/dude/thing/person? Vote for other candidates to keep that guy/gal/llama/cyborg/dude/thing/person down.

If he-who-shall-not be-mentioned is elected blame the flairbears on reddit and start praying for the rest of the CSM. I can't decide if it'll be bad or diablocially funny. Maybe both?

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
stoicfaux
#35 - 2015-03-09 19:48:14 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Urge to troll... rising...




Seriously though.. those who don't vote have no right to complain.

Subscribers who don't vote in the CSM have no right to complain? Pffft.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Pure Angel
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2015-03-09 20:02:51 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
Max Kolonko wrote:
Finally. I decided to not vote this year untill ccp tells me its time to vote. And they did one day before deadline :) fix your election communication ccp. It was fine last year. Its crap again this year


Well, to a certain degree, you're talking to the right person, as I do some of the banners and messaging for the election.

So, when you're done voting, come back to this thread and let me know what we could do better about the reach, cadence, message, or whatever it is you feel we could improve upon.



help me

help you




CCP Loktofeit.

This is honestly the first time iv heard of the elections this year.

And i wont be voting again this year because it makes no difference on who i vote for and what i care for, because none of the changes to wormhole space came through our wormhole CSM representative. Frigate holes..... Mass based spawn... Those were the most pathetic thing to come from CCP, we tried to put our opinion forward for them, and Fozzie took **** all notice.

Looks like his ignoring our suggestions for the Sov to null. Game is going to **** with him in charge.
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2015-03-09 20:02:56 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
No, not for me for the CSM, but ... For me, will you vote?


I will vote for you in exchange for plex.
DoToo Foo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2015-03-09 20:21:46 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:

...
Well, to a certain degree, you're talking to the right person, as I do some of the banners and messaging for the election.

So, when you're done voting, come back to this thread and let me know what we could do better about the reach, cadence, message, or whatever it is you feel we could improve upon.



help me

help you





Change the reward (this year the shuttle BPC's) so that it is only redeemable by accounts that voted. Include in the shuttle description that it was due to voting.

The redeem queue could by default contain a 'replica' shuttle describing that the real thing is available to those that vote.

http://foo-eve.blogspot.com.au/
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#39 - 2015-03-09 20:24:02 UTC
Pure Angel wrote:
Frigate holes..... Mass based spawn... Those were the most pathetic thing to come from CCP, we tried to put our opinion forward for them, and Fozzie took **** all notice.

Turns out he was right. Mass based spawn made WH PvP more interesting and although frigate holes were not very exciting, shattered holes at least made them worth checking out. They are definitely not detrimental in either case.
Atum
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
#40 - 2015-03-09 20:39:10 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
So, when you're done voting, come back to this thread and let me know what we could do better about the reach, cadence, message, or whatever it is you feel we could improve upon.



help me

help you

Honestly, 75 candidates are just too many. The community-driven matching tool sat there and acted like it had locked up the JScript a couple of times when I told it to show me all the results/comments, and even then, tbh, it's not really that helpful. The trouble is that vote-match matches you on how much you "agree" with a candidate, where agreement is measured by how closely you answered the same question. But what if you share the opinion "mining sucks" only you answered "Mining needs massive fixing" and they answered "Mining needs worked on, but not at the expense of SOV fixes"? Well, now you've just knocked a candidate you'd love to vote for towards the bottom of the pile. This is mitigated somewhat when candidates offer explanations for their positions, but do I really have time to read through 75 candidates' answers, times the number of questions asked? What about folks like Sort Dragon who don't offer any elaboration at all, yet have (for me, at least) a 98% match rate? I'm pretty sure his priorities are NOT aligned with mine, but without something more to go on... what can I do but either vote for him anyways and hope for the best, or not vote at all and then kvetch when CSM sucks?