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Noob guide to wallet fattening 1.0.1. v2

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Shiva Linga
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-03-08 14:33:39 UTC
Step 1: do tutorial missions
Step 2: train up for mwd, salvager and a fast boat with a bigger cargo
Step 3: sit in Uedama or Niarja and wait for CODE to pop something, then scuttle and loot that ship (possibly try to salvage it)
Step 4: similar tactic at Jita IV-4 on undock but you gotta be quick with the looting
Step 5: market margin trading is always a plus, requires patience
Step 6: as you loot and salvage, work your way towards a thrasher or catalyst, with gunnery skills included, improve them
Step 7: when you get all dessie skills to 3, start camping gates and wait for covert ops to go on auto pilot, sometimes shuttles have good loot too
Step 8: as you are ganking and ganking, work towards cloakie explorer, possibly the t2 cov ops frigs (anathema, buzzard etc)
Step 9: go to low sec / 0.0 Providence / Great Wildlands and scan out some Relic sites, sell the loot
Step 10: as you scan away in EVE, work towards Planetary Skills for PI
Step 11: when you reach this step you should already have some decent skills to fly cruisers, scan out a c2 wh, jump in and run sites, tank 'em heavy
Step 12: probe out WHs and sell them on forums
Step 13: hunt out dead towers with cargo bays and ship arrays still attached, blow them up with a bomber and scoop the loot with a hauler

If you follow these steps, you will get fat and rich. You will lose ships along this route, but you will eventually land a big score. Forget 0.0 offers, unless you want to rat and rat and rat into oblivion or get yelled at by walmart cashiers or paperboys, it dulls the mind. Production is an awesome way to generate isk. Market trading is also cool. Mind the ganking, dont let sec status drop below a certain level so you can still use hi sec to your own benefit.

The 13th step program is free of charge. But feel free to send some isk my way if you consider it a helpful gesture.
Serene Repose
#2 - 2015-03-08 14:38:24 UTC
My. What an ambitious plan! You'll be playing Faro in Monte Carlo in no time! (Either that, or parking cars.)

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-03-08 14:40:58 UTC
The insight is strong in this one, Obi Wan.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Vyl Vit
#4 - 2015-03-08 15:05:14 UTC
Skills and training is -----> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=254

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.

Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#5 - 2015-03-08 15:19:28 UTC
Buy frigate. Attach warp core stabs. Defensive plex in FW. Congratulations on free isk.
Pace eGuerra
Blunted Affect Inc.
#6 - 2015-03-09 02:38:00 UTC
Alternatively, a fast track to null / low sec PvP for the time poor:

1) Pay for subscription annually in advance

2) You will save enough in step 1 to buy two PLEX, buy one or two depending on what suits

3) Sell the PLEX for ISK on the market (more than enough isk to keep you away from grinding missions / asteroids)

4) Train the basic skills required to intercept in a Frigate

5) Join a null / low sec small gang PvP corp

6) Enjoy the PvP experience while leaning what to train next from your corp mates
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2015-03-09 02:39:35 UTC  |  Edited by: P3ps1 Max
damn... came thinking I would learn the billions of isk "weekly" secret vets know playing for free. Leaving disappointed.

Death to passive income.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2015-03-09 02:44:20 UTC
Pace eGuerra wrote:


6) Enjoy the PvP experience while leaning what to train next from your corp mates


Wow that sandbox experience closed fast.
Pace eGuerra
Blunted Affect Inc.
#9 - 2015-03-09 02:50:51 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Pace eGuerra wrote:


6) Enjoy the PvP experience while leaning what to train next from your corp mates


Wow that sandbox experience closed fast.


Did I over simplify something? :)
Jenshae Chiroptera
#10 - 2015-03-09 03:04:35 UTC
Shiva Linga wrote:
If you follow these steps, you ...
... will be a parasite until you have the skills to be a worm hole explorer. Ugh

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#11 - 2015-03-09 04:51:03 UTC
While this guide would give you a taste of a lot of different things it does seem a bit random and some of the activities are not exactly high income.

Step 7: when you get all dessie skills to 3, start camping gates and wait for covert ops to go on auto pilot, sometimes shuttles have good loot too.

You cant loot people you have ganked unless you have a non blinky alt. You also kill you sec status which I would not recommended to a noob unless they want to stay out of HS/stay a ganker.

Step 8-10 + 13

Did you plan on selling the loot in low/null? Being that you are Red moving around in a hauler is not great in HS.

Step 13

Pretty hit and miss as far as income goes.



Personally I would recommend a focused path once you know what you like. So rather than ending up having scanning/trading/PI ect ect skills focus on one area and then move on once you are maxed/bored.
stup idity
#12 - 2015-03-09 07:16:51 UTC
Shiva Linga wrote:

Step 2: train up for mwd, salvager and a fast boat with a bigger cargo
Step 3: sit in Uedama or Niarja and wait for CODE to pop something, then scuttle and loot that ship (possibly try to salvage it)
Step 4: similar tactic at Jita IV-4 on undock but you gotta be quick with the looting


While salvaging is risk free, looting is not and will probably get a new player killed before making any noticable profits. Finding some lvl 4 runner who lets you loot and salvage his missions has a much higher chance of being profitable.

Shiva Linga wrote:

Step 6: as you loot and salvage, work your way towards a thrasher or catalyst, with gunnery skills included, improve them
Step 7: when you get all dessie skills to 3, start camping gates and wait for covert ops to go on auto pilot, sometimes shuttles have good loot too


As was already mentioned above me: solo ganking doesn't work. Solo + alt ganking can be both boring, is mostly luck and the range of possible targets is very limited.

Shiva Linga wrote:

Step 8: [...] work towards cloakie explorer, possibly the t2 cov ops frigs (anathema, buzzard etc)
Step 9: go to low sec / 0.0 Providence / Great Wildlands and scan out some Relic sites, sell the loot


This is actually some good advice. Cov Ops Frigs are purely optional, though. A tech 1 scanner can do it. You need a little luck and you need to be a rather quick learner.

Shiva Linga wrote:

Step 10: as you scan away in EVE, work towards Planetary Skills for PI


Or don't - at least not in hi-sec. Pi can be very nice, when you don't have to pay (high) taxes and have some good planets.




I am the Herald of all beings that are me.

stup idity
#13 - 2015-03-09 07:17:39 UTC
Shiva Linga wrote:

Step 11: when you reach this step you should already have some decent skills to fly cruisers, scan out a c2 wh, jump in and run sites, tank 'em heavy


Could be done (C1 is also ok), but with low skills the payout won't be very high. You would probably be better off just doing the hacking sites.

Shiva Linga wrote:

Step 12: probe out WHs and sell them on forums


I would not really recommend that. You have to leave a scout in the system when you put it on sale. And having your main char not available for days, normally isn't really worth it.

Shiva Linga wrote:

Step 13: hunt out dead towers with cargo bays and ship arrays still attached, blow them up with a bomber and scoop the loot with a hauler


Doesn't work - at all. My (non forum) mains are in a WH-corp, we scan hundreds of wormholes a week. Do you want to know how often we find a pos pinata? 2 or 3 times a year, maybe 4 if really lucky.
And let's assume a new player in his scan frig finds one, how much of the loot - and especially how many of the ships - he finds, will he get out of the hole to safety?
Of course, always check if towers without force fields have hangars still attached, but do not try to make this any kind of profession. And watch out for bait towers, there are a few in WH-space.

I am the Herald of all beings that are me.

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#14 - 2015-03-09 10:35:33 UTC
Shiva Linga wrote:
Step 1: do tutorial missions


Why would a noob need to run the tutorial missions? They've been playing long enough that they should at least know that stuff by now.

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