Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's all good until a blue bombz ur incursus.

Ugh, if you've been in a large nullblock battle, you'dknow there ARE scavengers picking the field
Sometimes even during the battle.

I would love to see systems get some kind of wreck tracking.

If they could track the amount of wrecks over a given time, their size (possibly by tonnage rather then just small medium large wrecks) as well as the tech level. It could lead to a generated wreck salvage site that could be probed down. The wrecks could contain additional salvage materials but rarely if ever modules.

Further if it tracked life time of the wrecks that could be an additional variable to how much salvage appeared at these sites.
On the subject of wreck life time, wrecks should be given a moderately equivalent HP to their size. A frigate with 9k ehp should only have a wreck health of maybe 500-1k while a battleship which can have 180k ehp should have a wreck hp of 15-30k.

To balance that a little anything left in the wreck has a chance of being damaged or destroyed as the wreck takes damage.

Tonnage for ships flown by capsuleers would be counted at higher rate than NPC wrecks, despite that mission hubs will still provide high sec salvagers with constant content.

While places that contain massive player battles with super kills, these battle locations will balance themselves strongly simply by their value. For once groups of players could band together to roam LS or null in hunt of salvage sites spawning from massive battles. I would imagine for instance a battle like B-R would have generated multiple massively profitable salavge sites for days if not weeks after the battle making it a massively profitable salvage system with multiple interests working quickly to salvage while fighting off other forces. Mean while the lesser groups are gathering at the systems that were en route to B-R that had camps catching reinforcements. The salvage would still be excellent compared to HS but the risk would be less then actually entering B-R with alliance/coalition salvage teams working.

Further it livens up LS a little allowing explorers a new avenue for their trek through LS. Not to mention it would work well in wormhole space as well.

Sure there are, with this change though, at least with capital wrecks, you wouldn't have a salvager being able to just swoop in and grab the valuables, they would need to hang around, possibly for a while to get much out of it. That's where it generates content. In my vision, a large B-R type battle would leave enough wreckage that people might be salvaging it all for hours or even days afterward, leading to a known hot spot for activity.

If you've ever seen footage of the bottom of the ocean, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Any time a large animal dies and sinks down there, there's a flurry of activity around the body with all kinds of weird (and ugly) things coming out to get their share.

This sounds like an interesting idea, and would definitely create emergent game play.

Say, after 12 hours or so have the wrecks despawn and reappear as a signature that has to be probed down with some difficulty, the more wrecks and mass, the easier it is to probe down. After a player warps to it, have a beacon appear on overview in system for all pilots (like FW sites). Maybe even add some rare NPC patrols that will pick apart the wrecks for goodies so as the site won't last a full 24 hours if it is not discovered.

Players will have a chance to salvage and loot this wreck site in order to obtain modules and scrap metals, etc. For Tech II and capital ships, maybe players could get lucky and attain a small portion (5% or so) of fuel that was in the ship. Heck, even make some small amounts of rare ore available to entice miners to leave their comfort zones for a decent payout.

This is just a quick idea that I didn't think too much through, I would appreciate if others could add more to this!

With my idea the wrecks just stay where they are, they only become harder to remove and capitals are salvaged like asteroids. In this system PVP leads to PVE and leads back to PVP.

I have never understood why wrecks can be destroyed at all, let alone so easily. If you think about it for a moment, "destroying" a spaceship simply means doing enough damage to make it inoperable. At that point it becomes a wreck.

The wreck however is already inoperable so even if you "destroy" it by blasting it to pieces all you would get is lots of smaller wrecks!

Battle Badger!!!