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Petition: Remove Slaves from the SCC Markets.

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Alizebeth Amalath
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-03-07 04:19:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Alizebeth Amalath
Currently, in the Amarr Empire, Mandate and the Kingdom, slaves are currently brought and sold in great numbers on the SCC Markets-the capsuleer markets.
This cannot stand. The ownership of slaves is heavily restricted in the Empire. Frankly, there should be no sell orders from any of the Imperial agencies, like the Civic Court, of slaves on the capsuleer market.
I call on the appropriate agencies to remove their sell orders at once.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#2 - 2015-03-07 04:20:55 UTC
Signed. Only Holders are legally allowed to own slaves, not any fool with a capsuleer license. Reform this practice at once.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Bel Boma
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-03-07 04:51:26 UTC
Signed.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#4 - 2015-03-07 04:52:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Signed.

Ownership of slaves by commoners and foreigners is a crime against God, as stated in Scriptural laws governing the divine rights of Holders which grant them sole ownership. The liberal business practices of the Civic Court and Ammatar Consulate are in defiance of God and exploit the SCC's loopholes to line their own pockets by selling slaves to those who have no divine right to ownership. As has the Kingdom been doing since its inception. This exploitation of foreign trade policies has allowed such despicable acts as the Butcher's blood sacrifices, as well as the massacres made by other blooder heretics infesting the 24IC after the Arzad and Huola victories, which have resulted in the deaths of millions of faithful and which have been condemned by Grand Inquisitor Ohrud Omel of the Ministry of Internal Order. Through acting as an enabler for these evil acts, the Civic Court, the Ammatar Consulate, the Khanid Kingdom, and the SCC all make themselves equally culpable in the crimes committed and so deserve to have God's justice brought upon them. They make themselves enemies of Amarr and God.

Not only do these liberal business practices enable evil to be done against God's people, but in their rejection of Scriptural law and exploitation of foreign trading do they spit upon our holy traditions, our culture, and our way of life. It is an attack upon the divine rights of our most honourable Holders, who are supposed to be the sole individuals allowed ownership. It is an attack on God's Chosen, because the sale to of slaves to foreigners is a rejection of God's mandate that the worlds of the Heavens are to be ruled by the Amarr. And it is an attack on our slave markets, because we are facing a net loss of labor from exporting far more than we import. There are those like the Most Honorable the Lord Athacus Penn who say that we are facing a slave shortage as we have not known in generations. To Your Lordship Penn: This is why.

This is heresy and the sin of greed. It is an unfortunate product of the excessive liberalization of our society that has occurred in the last century. It blasphemes against Amarr's traditions and against God, and it allows for great evil to be carried out upon the faithful. It is time for this practice to be ended and its conspirators to be punished.


And to those foreigners who will try to interject here and call for abolition: Don't. If you value the life and health of slaves, don't derail this thread. You would only be weakening this proposal and hurting the very people you want to protect.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-03-07 05:02:32 UTC
Signed

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

Arkon Sarain
Kor-Azor Roving Tribunal
#6 - 2015-03-07 08:06:35 UTC
Dear Bishop Amalath,

Of course you also have my endorsement, such as it is, for this petition.

Your humble servant,

Dr. Arkon Sarain

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin."

The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Arkon's Adagia

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#7 - 2015-03-07 09:29:13 UTC
Signed

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Charles Surge
VULSI
#8 - 2015-03-07 13:21:58 UTC
Signed.

The current situation is against God.
Lord Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#9 - 2015-03-07 13:22:12 UTC
Signed
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-03-07 14:01:09 UTC
Signed,

My own Sebastian I have by lease... but allowing anyone to purchase slaves on an open market reduces them to chattel.
Despite claims otherwise, that is not the case for Amarrian slaves... they are in our care.

Additionally allowing such sales empowers monstrous acts like those of the Vile Nauplius, whose wholesale slaughter of a Million lives were remembered last night in a moving ceremony.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#11 - 2015-03-07 14:32:23 UTC
Not Signed

A large percentage of Amarrian Empyreans are Holders. These people need to be able to obtain slaves from somewhere.

In the Khanid Kingdom, commoners may own slaves. These people also need to be able to obtain slaves from somewhere.

Finally, slaves were created by God for his Chosen to glorify God. Removing slaves from SCC markets denies Empyreans the opportunity to glorify God by use of slaves. I believe this current petition is based on anti-Nauplius prejudice, a work of people who wrongly oppose the way the I glorify God in the destruction of slaves.
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-03-07 14:37:56 UTC
Not signed.

This is outrageous! If I cannot obtain slaves to use in my experiments and research, then other methods would have to be persued. Methods which I would prefer not to use, but will if necessary.

Still, for the record, this is a bad decision - But only a minor inconvenience to myself.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2015-03-07 14:40:22 UTC
As always, Lieutenant Kernher says it best. Signed.
Rictor Thellere
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-03-07 14:41:16 UTC
Absolutely signed,

Out of respect I will not hijack this into an abolition movement,
that being off the table if such trade is to continue I'd rather it be in the hands of those that can be held accountable.
Johanes Beaumonte
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2015-03-07 14:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Johanes Beaumonte
Nauplius wrote:
Not Signed

A large percentage of Amarrian Empyreans are Holders. These people need to be able to obtain slaves from somewhere.

In the Khanid Kingdom, commoners may own slaves. These people also need to be able to obtain slaves from somewhere.

Finally, slaves were created by God for his Chosen to glorify God. Removing slaves from SCC markets denies Empyreans the opportunity to glorify God by use of slaves. I believe this current petition is based on anti-Nauplius prejudice, a work of people who wrongly oppose the way the I glorify God in the destruction of slaves.


Eh? This exactly why. Unaccountable Capsuleer Fruitcakes! Signed.
Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#16 - 2015-03-07 14:44:03 UTC
Signed

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Tirva Vistu
The Anahitan Society
#17 - 2015-03-07 14:54:51 UTC
The Anahitan Society supports this.

Signed.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#18 - 2015-03-07 15:00:08 UTC
Signed.

One more step to getting rid of slavery completely.

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-03-07 15:14:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Corraidhin Farsaidh
Slavery is abhorrant in any way shape or form. As a counter proposal I suggest that the Empires with any form of moral backbone call for the total abolishment of this practice and reward those who liberate any unfortunate enough to be trapped in such an existence.
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-03-07 15:19:34 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh
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And to those foreigners who will try to interject here and call for abolition: Don't. If you value the life and health of slaves, don't derail this thread. You would only be weakening this proposal and hurting the very people you want to protect.


did you not understand?
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