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WH Newbies Beware: Gas Site Sentry Guns
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Artemis Houssa
Immortals of Thera
#1 - 2015-03-05 09:49:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Artemis Houssa
If you are new to w-space like yours truly and exploring sites in low class wormhole systems, watch out for the gas sites labeled "Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir". They have sentry guns that will instantly lock on and pop an uncloaked scanning frigate, before you have time to warp out. Either scan them down and explore them in a well tanked BC or BS, or wait until you've trained for cov ops and warp in cloaked.
Newt BlackCompany
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-03-05 10:32:45 UTC
We used to just ignore those sites, but the gas is more valuable now, so they are worthwhile.

Go kill the sentries with an ishtar or T3, and then the gas mining is easy.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-03-05 11:44:53 UTC
Or you could, you know, cloak...

There is no Bob.

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Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#4 - 2015-03-05 12:20:58 UTC
Unfortunately w-space isn't the great unknown anymore. In places like these you can look up what to expect in all sites:

http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=OrdinaryPerimeterReservoir

However, I confess that the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir" also was an unpleasant surprise for me the first time. It is a rare exception though.

Besides, I can't think of anything a cloaky or uncloaked scanning frig should do in a gas site. If you wish to start the timer on the sleepers, you don't have to actually go there. Just "warp to" and abort before leaving your scanspot. This way you can trigger all sleepers and conveniently fly in with your fighting ships 20 odd minutes later.
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#5 - 2015-03-05 14:02:03 UTC
perfect trap place. deploy bubble in that gas site and get out :)
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#6 - 2015-03-05 14:31:00 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Or you could, you know, cloak...

Can't cloak if you're being targeted ...

Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#7 - 2015-03-05 14:40:39 UTC
Those sleeper sentries are literally the single worst element of w-space. They add nothing but a *you're ship must be this much like a drake to run sites here*-restriction.

On the upside, you can get a passive tanked cruiser like a moa, warp it in first, have it tank the sentries and go mine the gas with ventures - they never switch targets unless the initial target leaves.
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-03-05 15:16:58 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
perfect trap place. deploy bubble in that gas site and get out :)


I have seen this 2 times in 2 years, that people just warp to this site ;)

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
Willow Windwalker
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-03-05 19:39:15 UTC
Make several bookmarks of that site, name them 'loot1" or similar and the jettison them in different places around the WH Twisted
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-03-05 22:47:48 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Or you could, you know, cloak...

Can't cloak if you're being targeted ...
Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid.

they shouldnt be able to in your invuln landing timer *shrug* not gonna lie, havent warped to one of those sites n a LOOOOOONNNNGGGG time.... (why would you...)

There is no Bob.

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#11 - 2015-03-06 13:46:11 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Or you could, you know, cloak...

Can't cloak if you're being targeted ...
Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid.

they shouldnt be able to in your invuln landing timer *shrug* not gonna lie, havent warped to one of those sites n a LOOOOOONNNNGGGG time.... (why would you...)

True, but a lot of people will panic, especially the newer players that aren't really clued up on this sort of thing.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#12 - 2015-03-06 13:49:35 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Those sleeper sentries are literally the single worst element of w-space. They add nothing but a *you're ship must be this much like a drake to run sites here*-restriction.

On the upside, you can get a passive tanked cruiser like a moa, warp it in first, have it tank the sentries and go mine the gas with ventures - they never switch targets unless the initial target leaves.


I disagree, a while back when I was in a wormhole a guy had warped into a site and needed help, all I had was my bomber. I was over 90k out when I warped in, when I decloaked to hit my afterburner the sentry instalocked me 90kms out and took 2 shots

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Dizzy Uzzy
Caldari 1
Caldari Alliance
#13 - 2015-03-06 16:33:30 UTC
Yes, all these murderous bastards out there and you worry about the sentries....
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#14 - 2015-03-06 19:07:46 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Those sleeper sentries are literally the single worst element of w-space. They add nothing but a *you're ship must be this much like a drake to run sites here*-restriction.

On the upside, you can get a passive tanked cruiser like a moa, warp it in first, have it tank the sentries and go mine the gas with ventures - they never switch targets unless the initial target leaves.


I disagree, a while back when I was in a wormhole a guy had warped into a site and needed help, all I had was my bomber. I was over 90k out when I warped in, when I decloaked to hit my afterburner the sentry instalocked me 90kms out and took 2 shots


You should blame that guy for warping out and leaving your bomber to catch sentry aggro.
Artemis Houssa
Immortals of Thera
#15 - 2015-03-06 21:53:34 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Or you could, you know, cloak...

Can't cloak if you're being targeted ...

Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid.


Yeah, and if you don't fly cov ops yet you can't even warp in cloaked. You can bring a bigger ship and blow up the towers from about 100km, out of their range. The tricky part is getting the bookmark in the first place, since once you re-ship your scan results are lost, which leaves you with the weird requirement to put a scan probe launcher on a Drake or something.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-03-06 22:22:33 UTC
Artemis Houssa wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Or you could, you know, cloak...

Can't cloak if you're being targeted ...

Those sentries pretty much instalock you the second you're on grid.


Yeah, and if you don't fly cov ops yet you can't even warp in cloaked. You can bring a bigger ship and blow up the towers from about 100km, out of their range. The tricky part is getting the bookmark in the first place, since once you re-ship your scan results are lost, which leaves you with the weird requirement to put a scan probe launcher on a Drake or something.


Bookmarks, do you make them? Protip: CTRL+B, or right click your scan result and select "save location".

Also, pretty much any "bigger ship" with an appropiate sized active tank can just warp into the middle of the site and blap, if they should be so inclined.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#17 - 2015-03-06 23:32:26 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
CTRL+B


I ♥ u. Seriously, didn't know, always went over the radial menu.
Sarah Jaxson
30plus
#18 - 2015-03-07 00:31:28 UTC
Warp in, set up a Large Mobile Warp Disruptor II and a Mobil Tractor Unit, then warp off. Go get your covert ops ship and go back and wait for all those nice people to scan down the MTU and warp in thinking they are about to gank something.
Artemis Houssa
Immortals of Thera
#19 - 2015-03-07 00:42:10 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:


Bookmarks, do you make them? Protip: CTRL+B, or right click your scan result and select "save location".


Oh wow, that would have helped Big smile thanks for the info
infra52x
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-03-07 12:20:31 UTC
Sarah Jaxson wrote:
Warp in, set up a Large Mobile Warp Disruptor II and a Mobil Tractor Unit, then warp off. Go get your covert ops ship and go back and wait for all those nice people to scan down the MTU and warp in thinking they are about to gank something.



im all over this....brilliant!!!
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