Crime & Punishment

I gave a long thought about how I want to go about doing this, at first I was angry then I was baffled. I beg forgiveness of CCP but I think this is a discussion that needs to be had.

Three years ago I was in CVA with a friend of mine. He has Asbergers syndrome and has a habit of rubbing people the wrong way. I have my own mental deficiency which allowed me to understand this person as I too have issue socializing though not to the same degree.

Due to this CVA removed him and told him to go away and in order to enforce it they marked him red.

Now up to this point I understood. they just wanted him to go away. I understand though frowned in disapproval. At the end of the day this person has done nothing wrong to anyone in CVA to merit perma KoS status but apparently that's what happened.

Time wore on and I forgot though I wish I said something then. events transpired that gave me ownership of AM. This person called in a favor and I invited them into the alliance.

CVA swiftly respond by telling me to throw him out on his ear or be marked KoS.

Now for those of you who are snickering at this point the door is over there. Are they gone? Good, I hate that guy.

I understand people don't always mesh, I understand they don't like him but he never did anything to them. No heist, no leaking intel just annoying them.

No one in this game should have the right to bully anyone for out of game reasons into not flying with anyone.

I could get it if you want to keep one powerful person from teaming up with another in some cool meta game but this is strickly personal.

Its Bulling and Harassment and it needs to stop.

Ultimately I don't care about being KoS to CVA, ultimately I know CCP can't do anything but I feel the player base should know this story and decide for themselves how they feel.

If nothing else lest the truth is known now.

fly safe.

Much though I deride Provi, I have to agree with their stance on this one.

Getting rid of someone who has pissed off a bunch of your members is a normal, reasonable act. Enforcing it is a natural consequence of the responsibilities of leadership.

I fail to see the problem here, unless you think that his mental condition should give him a pass for his actions.

CVA are bullies. Now I've read it all.

Did they actually hunt him down?


You merely said he was Red and like all reds KoS?

Surely, if this was a thing, everyone favorite internet space detective would have picked up on it, and the Ripardmobile would have been dispatched for torch and pitchfork distribution duty in preparation for the storming of Provi.


I guess I fail to see how this is bullying. Then again, the word is thrown around so much nowadays that I doubt anyone knows what bullying really is anymore.

It's not bullying, it's refusing to having anything to do with people that associate with people that you don't like.

How does your friend rub people up the wrong way?

Make inappropriate remarks?
Fail to pull their weight?
Generally act like a knob?

I've seen people get fired from their jobs for all of the above, getting fired from an internet spaceships organisation is chump change compared to that.

But most employers unless very vindictive don't go to your new boss and tell them they can't do business with them because they hired you.

So you feel that them not wanting to give him a second chance is bullying?

Exile for personal reasons does not constitute harassment or bullying.

Edit: I'll add that your reputation is a very real part of the game. Your friend, as far as CVA is concerned, has lost his Provi priviledges. I'm not sure you're telling us everything that happened for him to be in this position. Either he should find a different part of space to make his EVE living, or he can attack, infiltrate, or use the myriad tools (ie: alts) EVE has for him to put himself back in Provi.

There is no bullying in a video game. At all. Ever.

If you feel threatened, upset, hostile, or bullied... simply logoff and dont play anymore. Boom. No more bullying.


Real bullying means being picked on at school, or other places where you cannot remove yourself from the equation. Its not even YOU that is the subject of said bullying, its an avatar. A fake name, for a make believe universe about stealing, fighting, trickery, scamming, etc.

What a goddamn joke.