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A Bounty on the Head of Nauplius
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Aerinbiorn Haubogi
Burning Equilibrium
#1 - 2015-03-04 19:48:18 UTC
Famajem jankem.

Many of us have read of the claims put forth by the Blood Raider calling himself Nauplius. You have heard of his claims of murdering a million of my own kinfolk, for even though I may not have known them, they were still Minmatar. I call upon all good people, of all walks of life, of all faiths and political leanings, to put a bounty on the head of Nauplius such as never before been seen. Let's bring justice to this monster.

Saksek wanakkin, brothers and sisters of New Eden.

Doctor Aerinbiorn Haubogi, MA in Tribal Studies, PhD Archaeology - Pator Tech
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#2 - 2015-03-04 19:58:47 UTC
I am afraid, sir, that bounties don't seem to have the desired effect of stiring capsuleers into action who otherwise would not. I instead recommend more proactive methods. Perhaps use the isk to fund a permanent wardec on Nauplius and his known associates to limit their freedom of movement in HiSec?

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#3 - 2015-03-04 20:01:42 UTC
Because this will work. He has no friends who sympathize with his cause who would collect that bounty and use the profits to further his goals.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2015-03-04 20:02:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Since bounties don't actually make it legal to attack the "wanted" person, it's true that it probably wouldn't cause many more attacks.

Couldn't a bounty be used as a way to encourage, say, hired mercenaries to do their jobs well, though?

Claudia Osyn wrote:
Because this will work. He has no friends who sympathize with his cause who would collect that bounty and use the profits to further his goals.


Um ... maybe I misunderstand, but isn't the system set up to be impossible for the bounty target to turn a profit on, anyway?
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#5 - 2015-03-04 20:08:48 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Since bounties don't actually make it legal to attack the "wanted" person, it's true that it probably wouldn't cause many more attacks.

Couldn't a bounty be used as a way to encourage, say, hired mercenaries to do their jobs well, though?


The way CONCORD calculate the share of bounty paid out, unless he is flying a particuarly expensive ship by market price, you're not going to see a lucrative return on a high risk investment. Namely putting your ship on the line and shooting him.

It's this very reason why Capsuleers routinely mock the current legally approved bounty system in place.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#6 - 2015-03-04 20:14:54 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Claudia Osyn wrote:
Because this will work. He has no friends who sympathize with his cause who would collect that bounty and use the profits to further his goals.


Um ... maybe I misunderstand, but isn't the system set up to be impossible for the bounty target to turn a profit on, anyway?

Not impossible, just more difficult.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2015-03-04 20:21:58 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
The way CONCORD calculate the share of bounty paid out, unless he is flying a particuarly expensive ship by market price, you're not going to see a lucrative return on a high risk investment. Namely putting your ship on the line and shooting him.

It's this very reason why Capsuleers routinely mock the current legally approved bounty system in place.


The old system did allow the target to turn a profit, though.

... I wonder if they're trying to avoid the scenario where bountied capsuleers can liquidate, say, deep nullsec assets by detonating each others' ships.

Probably.

Anyhow, a Machariel or Nightmare's always been an attractive target. As it is, you get a nice little payout on top of having the thing on your kill record.

Less a direct motivation and more a handshake and "Well done" to whoever pulled it off.
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-03-04 21:03:11 UTC
personally I'll pay 1 M just for his frozen corpse , it's not much but I'll still pay it.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#9 - 2015-03-04 21:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ashlar Vellum
I don't want to be a negative nancy, but concord bounty system is meaningless. If you want to see more people hunting that ridiculous peasant then pay for his head(corps) with hard isk
U'tah Arareb
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-03-04 21:11:16 UTC
it's a shame the NEOcom software won't allow contracts for Named biomass
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#11 - 2015-03-04 21:40:58 UTC
U'tah Arareb wrote:
it's a shame the NEOcom software won't allow contracts for Named biomass

Such system would be scamed too easily, everything should be checked in person by the person who pays to minimise the risk of giving money to the target and his associates.
Lord Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#12 - 2015-03-04 23:52:37 UTC
You would be better off pooling resources to hire mercenaries, in an attempt to hinder his logistics in empire space.
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#13 - 2015-03-05 00:18:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Maxwell
I don't quite understand what you all are talking about. It's quite simple to put a bounty on someone. Sure, the "official" channels through CONCORD are rather lackluster, but that is far from the only method.

It's as simple as saying, for example, "Whoever brings me a recent, relevant kill report on Anslo will be entitled to a percentage payout of what the ship and or pod was worth, payed out by myself, personally."

Edit: I would like to add that I am not actually placing a bounty on Anslo, his name was merely the first one to pop into my head. Sending me kill reports of him won't earn you anything.
Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-03-05 00:32:59 UTC
I started a Million ISK bounty on him a month or so back and invited everyone to add to it. People have and every so often I get a little note from CONCORD that someone collected on it.

Best mil I ever spent.

I say keep adding to the bounty and invest in a little publicity, maybe add a high end ship contract or two to sweeten the pot and we wouldn't have to hire expensive mercs. Hundreds of low-end ones would work just as well.





BRCE: Mission Statement!
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-03-05 00:37:17 UTC
Would it be possible to launch a massive operation to locate him, destroy his towards, and take back the innocents? A joint operation to save those who he is killing, I would join such a fleet, i can set aside my differences for the greater good.. We can blockade him while out brothers and sisters take out all of his assets and towers..

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2015-03-05 00:49:16 UTC
Bounties and monikers such as "Slave Butcher" only give this individual the attention he craves. The proper response is to silently destroy him whenever he is on grid.

To those who oppose slavery: There are better ways to accomplish your goals than to crow about how bad examples such as Nauplius are. Do your research. Do not feed funds to organizations that merely stockpile slaves in concentration ("Matriculation") camps. Direct them to organizations that actually free slaves.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-03-05 01:04:42 UTC
Karmilla Strife wrote:
Bounties and monikers such as "Slave Butcher" only give this individual the attention he craves. The proper response is to silently destroy him whenever he is on grid.

To those who oppose slavery: There are better ways to accomplish your goals than to crow about how bad examples such as Nauplius are. Do your research. Do not feed funds to organizations that merely stockpile slaves in concentration ("Matriculation") camps. Direct them to organizations that actually free slaves.


Also, perma-wardec?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2015-03-05 01:25:33 UTC
If you'd like. Nappy exploits the militia wardec system already. As much as I don't like him, he's not stupid regarding his conflict status.
Albizu Zateki
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-03-05 01:34:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Albizu Zateki
None of those methods will work. And you all know that.

Capturing him outside of his pod might...but not really.

What drives him to commit the acts you find so abhorrent, is his faith.

And you will never change that either.

My hypothesis is that only other Sani Sabik would have a chance of effecting a long-term change within his soul.

"Bloody Omir's coming back. Monsters from the endless black. Wading through a crimson flood, Omir's come to drink your blood."
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2015-03-05 02:32:08 UTC
Albizu Zateki wrote:
None of those methods will work. And you all know that.

Capturing him outside of his pod might...but not really.

What drives him to commit the acts you find so abhorrent, is his faith.

And you will never change that either.

My hypothesis is that only other Sani Sabik would have a chance of effecting a long-term change within his soul.

Are you planning to test that hypothesis, Mr. Zateki?
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