Wormholes

You still whining about Hyperion pleases me greatly.

That's because if you run sites you can expect 1-2 sheild nags to come farm your archon and moros pilots one or two sites in.

Sitekilling runners is the new bloodsport in c5/6.



They didn't leave, they coalesced into bigger corps to seek the warm cynical glow of fellow geriatrics huddled around the burning towers of smaller corps that didn't throw themselves upon the guns of the 70 man "good fights" T3 fleets.

I'm pretty sure XLSMA's now come with handicap parking.

Change is good.

Nah, we can't have that sort of thing. Remember kiddies, wormhole space is supposed to be the unknown.

You see, the problem with Fozzie is he takes a trend and, even though the dev blog and Phoebe both occur after the trend is already in its full swing, extrapolates that the trend was caused post-facto by the thing he hopes to see as resulting from the patches, ipso facto he searches for a conclusion and finds the one he was looking for.

For example the graph of 2 week rolling-average of ISK lost in nullsec PVP shows a trend - which began half a period before the graph shows it beginning - which got in train n August of 2014. The dev blog was released in October 2014 and Phoebe in november.

The trend, which in stockbroking terminology (i used to be a Technician, so pity me) is an upward channel, lasts 4 months, then breaks over the Christmas-new Year break. Technicians amongst you will realise there's a seasonality at work here but technics-wise the channel get broken and forms a pennant. The pennant is forming and coming to a break point in the next month or two; upward pennants like this can either break upwards or downwards.

The same pennant pattern is apparent in the total number of nullsec kills which in this unitless void, also matches a half-pennant forming in nullsec jumps (though this suggests the correction will be downwards when the pattern breaks).

The graph of capital ship deaths is interesting, as it shows mortality has increased and is holding at a higher base level than pre-Phoebe. The question is why - is it more capitals getting caught on gate or with access to the numbers, could one re-base it or correct for the nullsec population (ie; is a slight increase in population causing more caps to undock and hence die), or correct it for capital gate jumps, capital jumps, damage dealt by capitals to structures, or indeed capital damage dealt to rats.

My analysis of the nullsec population is that it's probably a good simulant for wormhole population (and my experiences picking up bittervets from nullsec during Phoebe's deployment). The population increased as players subbed up, loaded all their crap into their suitcase carriers, and the population crashes as people evacuate nullsec. Then a bunch join the HERO Coalition, and the population re-establishes itself.

There was also probably an element, over the new year period, of ISBoxing toons being un-subbed or leaving nullsec en-masse, to be flogged off on the forums - a process still continuing to this day as adjudged by a quick trawl of the IS Boxer bazaar yesterday.

For wormholes, same deal. People table flipped at the Hyperion changes, tossed their babies out with the bathwater, and silently crawled back into a big blobby C5 bear corp without making a big hooplah about it once they got sick of playing grab-ass with level 4 rats.

Exactly. It have been the following changes, because they saw what they destroyed with Hyperion ;) And I am sure it's pretty obvious in their statistics and that's why they don't show them to us. :)

The only reasons, that nowadays wormhole life is more lively again are:

- Blue loot increase
- 0.0 Hacking Sites
- Fullerite value increase

That's it and has nothing to do with Hyperion. We kill so much more CovOps frigates just because of 0.0 Hacking Sites. If they wouldn't have implemented it to stop lowclass wormholes running dry you would seldomly meet someone these days in C1 to C3.

And statistics would prove that. I am pretty sure.

Hyperion announcement and patch release --> drastic decrease of people living in low class wormholes

Blue Loot Event & Blue Loot increase & 0.0 Hacking Sites & T3 Destroyer Announcement --> stopped the drop of numbers of people being active in low class wormholes and it slowly began to recover.

I am pretty sure they had no other choice. Otherwise Hyperion would have been a catastrophe for low-class wormholes and only bigger corps in higher classes would have remained mainly.

It's not here about whether it was a great change for you or not. For overall acitivity in wormholes it was a very bad one! And I like frig holes by the way ;P

The circumstance of dying low-class wormholes after Hyperion announcement was a very firm feeling for everybody who was active in that area. And I have no doubts statics would prove that and this feeling would most probably become a fact then.

You seem to live in a C2. Don't tell you did not recognise a decreasing overall activity last summer? That would be against the main impression here from the forums and my personal as well.

Despite that I am more than happy that wormholes are more lively area than one year ago :) Plenty of things to do and shoot :) I have adapted and only die from time to time, but that happend before Hyperion as well. :)

I am mainly a day tripper and lived some time until mid of last year in low class wormholes. it was different when Hyperion was announced in those low class wormholes these days and honestly I even saw 3 times people bringing stuff out and one time I killed their last ship with the tower ^^. I haven't seen this before Hyperion.
And it was not only me reporting this around that time.

Again: Show us the statics CCP and all discussion, but at least all speculation will have an end! ;) You can, you just don't want, do you?

For what? Where is the benefit to know, if Hyperion forced people to leave or not. You wrote it by yourself:


So CCP has reacted. Low class got a great boost to income. What do you want to do them, what they haven´t done in the past?


So where is the problem, if anything is great right now? Hyperion made living in a Wormhole a little bit harder, but CCP added enough benefit to force people to thrive in again. So again. What do want from CCP what they haven´t done in the past to improve Wormhole Life?

Do not forget that most people playing this strange game like statistics and graphporn. Just look at the fanfestpresentations.
The where we stand devblog also does something really nice in not only showing # of kills but also the ISK-value. No doubt activitiy in lowends is way up, but I´d happily trade half those stabbed epithrals (worst shipbalance ever), ventures and the hordes of herons for the occasional collapsing orca. But if so I´d probably be unhappy because people to shoot were so rare again...

While I totally agree with the first part , wspace is definitely not the easiest to fly in as you know, you never know, while everywhere else at least you know, you know?