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Pod Panik
Low-Sec Scrubs
#1 - 2015-03-01 03:46:51 UTC
So, after a few tryouts, I am proud to say that I am a shield guy...

But more importantly, I am a Shield/Drone Guy...I love playing with drone and I love the safety net provided by shield tanking...

This said, there does not seem to be a lot of "Shield Drone Boat" out there...am I missing something?

As a background, I tried Armor tanking both my Vexor and Myrmidon and I almost died of a heart attack...I found armor to be a very thin protection and the repairers are way too slow. There is something I must not get...

So far, my best "tank" has been my passive shield Myrmidon with 16,000 pts of shield with a 80pts regen every sec. Very cheap built but it allowed me the luxury of time to react and warp out if things went south...

So...as I am aiming to pilot a Battleship in the near future for Mission purpusos, any recommendation of what BattleShip I should aim for? Again, the main themes would be Shield + Drones...





PS: Thanks to Eve University to accept me in!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#2 - 2015-03-01 04:04:57 UTC
Pod Panik wrote:
So far, my best "tank" has been my passive shield Myrmidon with 16,000 pts of shield with a 80pts regen every sec. Very cheap built but it allowed me the luxury of time to react and warp out if things went south..
Welcome to the exceptions to the rules, a shield Myrmidon is great for PvE. Make sure you play to the ships damage bonus, drone damage amps go a long way on a Myrm.


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Pod Panik
Low-Sec Scrubs
#3 - 2015-03-01 04:11:15 UTC
I have two drone damage amp on it...but not skilled.for the T2 version yet.
Orlacc
#4 - 2015-03-01 04:32:09 UTC
Great fun Shield/Drone boat is Navy Domi.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Memphis Baas
#5 - 2015-03-01 04:54:20 UTC
Officially, the drone boats are belong to Amarr and Gallente, and both prefer armor, so you'll technically be picking a drone boat and trying shields on it.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#6 - 2015-03-01 04:54:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
Do not believe Memphis Baas there are dedicated shield tanked drones ships and let me introduce a fellow drones pilot to one of the best if not the best in the game, sub -cap class of course. I present the Rattlesnake.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rattlesnake
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Rattlesnake

You will need both Gallente AND Caldari battleship skills to fly this jewel and you will need a really good set of drones, missile and tanking skills.

If you have decides that you are a shield tanker tehn I suggest a short stop at the Raven for level 4's while you train the skill set needed for the snake.
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Raven
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2015-03-01 05:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
The Gila, Rattlesnake and Worm are designed as shield, missile and drone boats but as pirate ships they aren't cheap.

The Ishtar and Myrmidon aren't designed for shields but do work well as shield, railgun or blaster and drone ships. The Vexor can do it too.

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Memphis Baas
#8 - 2015-03-01 05:07:40 UTC
Look at the cost of those ships and figure out how long until you get your investment back, based on your current mission payouts.

Also, you're probably on the CODE gank list, courtesy of ... this post being public, so keep in mind that your ship may be suicide-ganked in high sec.
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#9 - 2015-03-01 06:02:52 UTC
A shield tanked vexor is perfectly viable (I run with a buffer tank, two large shield extenders, I'm not sure about active tank.) You can actually get pretty big dps out of it, since you can fill the low slots with 3 or 4 drone damage mods.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2015-03-01 06:14:25 UTC
Trevor Dalech wrote:
A shield tanked vexor is perfectly viable (I run with a buffer tank, two large shield extenders, I'm not sure about active tank.) You can actually get pretty big dps out of it, since you can fill the low slots with 3 or 4 drone damage mods.

A shield-tanked Vexor is one of the few Tech 1 Cruiser hulls that can come close to breaking 1000 dps with a "reasonable" fit... though you do have to make a few concessions in terms of fitting.

How did you Veterans start?
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#11 - 2015-03-01 08:03:59 UTC
Also Ishtar works perfectly as shield tanked though the ship will be slightly nerfed in the future for being too good a drone boat.
Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#12 - 2015-03-01 08:33:48 UTC
A shield VNI could probably run lvl 4 missions. I know some guys who can run 7/10 DED sites in them and can nearly solo 8/10 sites. I get good isk in it in null and the shield/speed tank is OP just use a 100MN AB. But a BS would work better for high sec maybe. Also use EFT and look at EHP as it includes resists.
Egdald Eriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-03-01 09:22:14 UTC
In game includes resists as well, if resists are active. But it calculates against lowest resist. EFT has the ability to setup resist profiles (for specifics rats or ammo, for example).
And shield domi works. I'm not sure if I have my fit saved though..
Egdald Eriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-03-01 09:32:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Egdald Eriker
[Dominix, Dominix]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
100MN Afterburner II

Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Untested in missions, just a modified version of a sleeper one I've run before. Cap stable, but not very fast (366m/s at all V). Meant for Guristas/Serpentis rats, does ~780 tank against guristas. Load with heavies or sentries, I'm not sure what's better. In sleeper sites you could just do sentries and use smaller drones for frigates, but you need to move (to gates) in missions.
And for the first upgrade on it, I recommend a Pith-X type booster. It gives over 50% to your hp/s (~1240) for 90m. Higher cap usage though, so you'll want very good cap skills and to be good at managing your cap and running missions before getting it.

You might also want to load some railguns in the highs, for aggro (and that extra bit of dps).
Pod Panik
Low-Sec Scrubs
#15 - 2015-03-01 14:19:34 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Look at the cost of those ships and figure out how long until you get your investment back, based on your current mission payouts.

Also, you're probably on the CODE gank list, courtesy of ... this post being public, so keep in mind that your ship may be suicide-ganked in high sec.



What is the CODE gank list?

And why would suicide gankers target a ship with no rwal value? I thought mostly haulers were targetted due to their valuable cargo...
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#16 - 2015-03-01 14:33:59 UTC
Yeah, I don't think they will bother with a cheap mission ship.

I always recommend the Gila, since it is one of the most fun and versatile ships in all of EVE, but it's not exactly cheap.

This baby can handle all missions, most nullsec sites and complexes and wormholes up to class three, and it is just a few module swaps away from being PvP-ready:

[Gila, Buffer]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
[Empty High slot] (put whatever your CPU skills or implants allow here)

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


'Augmented' Hammerhead x2

The downside of the Gila is that it is both expensive and fairly skill intensive to get the most out of its bonuses. Some faction or meta4 modules will allow you to add a drone link augmentor to the high slot.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#17 - 2015-03-01 15:51:18 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Officially, the drone boats are belong to Amarr and Gallente, and both prefer armor, so you'll technically be picking a drone boat and trying shields on it.
While this is true, a shield Myrmidon can be as tough and versatile as a Drake for PvE.

There are always exceptions to the rules, the Myrmidon is one of them.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-03-01 19:09:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
obviously there's the guristas ships (worm, gila & rattlesnake)
the Ishtar, Myrmidon & Dominix all shield tank to quite good effect

not so sure about the amarr drone boats as I've never really used them
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#19 - 2015-03-01 22:20:26 UTC
Pod Panik wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
Look at the cost of those ships and figure out how long until you get your investment back, based on your current mission payouts.

Also, you're probably on the CODE gank list, courtesy of ... this post being public, so keep in mind that your ship may be suicide-ganked in high sec.



What is the CODE gank list?

And why would suicide gankers target a ship with no rwal value? I thought mostly haulers were targetted due to their valuable cargo...




As someone in CODE alliance, I'd prioritize other people over you for ganking. Watchlisting you and actively hunting you is a lot of effort and unlikely to give good returns.

But just always assume that being ganked is a real possibility, and never undock in anything you can't afford to lose.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-03-02 00:47:59 UTC
My passive shield tank Vexor actually tanks more DPS than my Rattlesnake :D

You can also Shield tank a Domi. Just fit the new low slot modules instead of oldschool omnis.
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