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are these 'anti-nerf' people actually serious? is it even possible to be that dumb?

Anti nerf as in its a buff
or anti nerf as in against nerf

Therefore our proposal is to simply remove fighter assist. <-- being remove now.
Already made the decision to lead not fighters to warp. <-- already lead to not "warp fighters" the decision has been made.
but they left forums open for more feedback.. enjoy


dev blog can be found here...
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/balance-changes-coming-in-scylla?_ga=1.137560368.108197750.1424773860

It's easier to take a bat to one ship instead of balancing the other 3 races to match it. Enough said I guess!

Will this be a trend against Gallente ships as a general since armor and blasters had been made more viable over the years.

CCP RISE.........

It may be an idea for you to take a look at your Skynet thread in the Features and ideas section.

You say that you want feedback, but make no comment after 31 pages of it.

Our fleet out roaming on the weekend was dunking everyone!

But then we ran into a carrier assisted gate camp with a AB fit Tengu

Our entire fleet couldn't kill the Tengu and many of us died including me
This fleet had just dunked a huge cruiser fleet and huge t3 dessie fleet without much difficulty


But no carrier assisted Tengu (with some inties) kills our fleet https://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=27676902
Update is named after our CEO
Next day CCP nerfs all of that

Illmanatees confirmed!

'Being between Scylla and Charybdis is an idiom deriving from Greek mythology, meaning "having to choose between two evils". Several other idioms, such as "on the horns of a dilemma", "between the devil and the deep blue sea", and "between a rock and a hard place" express the same meaning.' (wiki)

Predictions on upcoming sov changes from wiki:
'In James Gillray's Britannia between Scylla and Charybdis (3 June 1793),[3] 'William Pitt helms the ship Constitution, containing an alarmed Britannia, between the rock of democracy (with the liberty cap on its summit) and the whirlpool of arbitrary power (in the shape of an inverted crown), to the distant haven of liberty'.[4] This was in the context of the effect of the French Revolution on politics in Britain. That the dilemma had still to be resolved in the aftermath of the revolution is suggested by Percy Bysshe Shelley's returning to the idiom in his 1820 essay A Defence of Poetry: "The rich have become richer, and the poor have become poorer; and the vessel of the state is driven between the Scylla and Charybdis of anarchy and despotism."'

I somewhat disagree, because I think this comparison is not a very good fit. If you talk about production time in an RTS: while a unit is build, there is typically tons of other nice stuff to do, like commanding the units you already built. Same with walls in counterstrike: you can still DO stuff with the walls in place: you can throw a grenade and make it bounce around a corner, you can sneak and hide, etc...

With warp speed in EVE there are several fundamental differences:

Time spent in warp is often just dead waiting time. Except for D-scan there is very little you can do, almost nothing you can actively influence, while in warp. Most of the time it's too short to do trading or some other non-ship related thing and in a big ship, it's too long, to pass by unnoticed. This is bad thing.

Waiting time acts as a deterrent for all PvP related activities. The expectation of exciting combat has to outweigh the dead, inactive, passive travelling time in order to make someone undock, who wants to roam...

In a gaming environment in general, all preperation time, i.e. the time you need in order to get to the fun part, should ALWAYS be considered a serious drawback. In fact all people, that I introduced to EVE and that did not follow through, quit because it takes just too long to get to the places where you can do stuff.

Battleships and battlecruisers don't contribute to the economy/logistics chain, therefore making them faster won't impact the flow of trade goods.

One last heretic idea: why not give each and every ship type a fuel bay and a warp speed selector (like standard/faster/turbo or 1-10 etc.) on the lowest setting, the ship travels just as it does now, but it doesn't consume fuel either. On the higher settings, warp speed increases and fuel is consumed proportional to the total mass (including fitting and cargo) of the ship; potentially also proportionally to the distance to be warped, but that's not absolutely necessary. With just an additional bay (which is already a property that ships can have), a button similar to the legality-safety-switch, and possibly a blueprint for new item (but hey there is already Rocket-Fuel...), you could make a lot of people very happy and add another ISK sink at the same time... Plus there could emerge some extra complexity, when turbocharged ships would actually travel faster and/or cheaper on routes with more jumps but shorter in-system distances.

countdown till they nerf all the weapons.. since they nerfed rails..

next year they'll nerf jumping cause its over-powered.

then he'll figure out how to nerf industry... oh wait!

then the next cycle since everyone is going to be terrified of flying the bandwagon ships.. we'll all be AFK cloaking up a storm left and right.........since that's the only worth while active gameplay.

absolutely brilliant!..

Carrier Pilots.... say bye bye.. to fighter assist..

say hello to well.. looking pretty in super cap and doing nothing with it..

his blog made me want to stab my eyes, pull them out, and then fry them for a nerf-burger.

So you guys give lip service to risk versus reward and pilots needing to be involved. You want to nerf fighter assist because fighter pilots can sit near a PoS bubble and have very little risk but that is very little risk if the pilot is actually at his computer. If he goes afk his carrier would die sitting outside a PoS bubble like that.

On the other hand you have cloaky afk campers. A player can log on in a red system and cloak up and go to work and be sitting 40 miles away from his gaming rig that he's logged into and be in his office doing his job. Mean while the players that live in that system have to stop doing anything in that system or completely change they way they do stuff. Do to the fact that there is no limit to how many people he can hot drop on you in a matter of less than 3 seconds there is literally no way that you can defend against this. The camper can wait and pick and choose when and who he wants to engage and the owners of the system have to assume he could do this at any time even if the actual person behind the toon is out at the bar with his buddies for the evening.

Cloaky campers have a huge effect on their opponents even if they are not "playing the game" with literally no risk what so ever. This is so much worse than a carrier pilot that at least needs to be at his computer. To make it worse the fix to this is very simple just add a inactivity log off timer to the game like other MMOs have but you either can't think of that or refuse to do it.

I just wonder if you guys think before you post sometimes.

just wait till ccp rise & fozzie decides to nerf catalyst and well here's the flow of the dev blog

(please excuse me ccp rise but im going to copy from you.. cause well dude.. you're sooooooo pro!)

Catalayst

Problem : it kills too many ships and doesn't cost money, its one of the leading gank ships in the game
Proposal : we've decided to change its role into a .........covert electronic attack logistic strategic destroyer!

why? : cause pretty charts and pie graphs said so..

now community please provide feedback and we take this serious ok! o7



THIS! is Eve Online..

going where batchit crazy has never ever gone before!!

Resistance if futile will be NERFED!!!!!