Player Features and Ideas Discussion

An idea like this would encourage fights to happen off stations ...I think it's a good idea. The more annoying part about station games is the huge undock radius of most stations and the ability to go *inside* the graphic of the station so you're impossible to bump away (*coughjitacough*).

now now lets not talk about taking risks in deadly i love you guys but damn

You can't bump off most stations because of the docking radius. It's literally 20km on some stations.

First off... no, thats dumb. And 2nd, no, it wouldn't change anything anyways, most fights on station include getting pointed so you aren't going anywhere anyways.

The game already has a mechanic for this, called the weapons timer. It takes care of this nicely. Though it does have some room to be improved in how much DPS one has to field to kill a faction battleship with half decent resists in that time.

I like the intent and idea to fix station games, but there are other ways to do it. Things like neutral reppers gaining the weapons timer for interferring (so they can't insta dock the moment they come under fire, can't 'actually' risk that shiney nestor now can we?). Or perhaps you aren't allowed to change ships in space (via orca or bowhead) while part of a duel? Another idea is for them to reduce the docking ring on some stations, as it is pretty ridiculously huge on quite a few stations and can be quite irritating to try to bump someone out of range only for them to dock immediately after a couple of good hits.

But really, no, if you are fighting several war targets and you happen to blow them up, all they have to do to keep you from docking is just make sure they have someone on grid. That sounds like a terrible idea for combat.

No, you can still disengange and dock after 60s.


It's not enough... Don't tell me I have to field 20 people to kill a Ancillary boosting BS under 60s. That is just unbalanced.


I like this idea too


This will be solved by my idea. No need to reduce docking ring


What keeps you from warping away?

Most of the replies to the thread are people that have never been in a HS war it seems. This is what happens: Attacking corp war-decs an industrial corp. The industrial corp gets combat ships together to fight back. Indys track a member of the attacking corp to a station. Attacker undocks, fight begins. Attacker sees that he is out-numbered. and stops shooting for 60 seconds. He then docks, and is immediately repaired to 100%.

The OP's suggestion is, when under a war, with war targets on grid, the attacker would not be able to dock just by stopping his fire for 60 seconds. He would have to break point, warp away, and warp back before he could dock in that station.

Most HS War-dec Corps are just looking to kill careless barges in belts, and ambush haulers at gates. They expose themselves to 0 Risk. The minute they find themselves at a disadvantage, they run.

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In terms of pure aesthetics, I'm not too fond of stations. They're just too simple. I say give us some signs of life. Expand stations into a series of installations that are flung all across the entire grid. There can even be giant shields around them where no-one can even lock others. They could even have giant mobile warp disruptor fields that oblige pilots of manually slowboat from one area to another, or even from the edge of the grid.

Pain in the arse? Maybe. Long and slow, or inconvenient to your isk-efficiency per hour? Don't really care. I want those dynamic encounters. I want the fastness of fast ships to be something with a practical bent as well as a tactical one. I want that velocity bonus on your industrial ship to affect the bottom line. I want to see majestic fleets of large ships plowing through space, and a large range of possibilities shaping how pilots will choose to engage one another and how their respective leaders will choose to position themselves to best advantage. I want space to be BIG. Epically big.

Perhaps we could even extend some of the functionality of stations into industrial menu access zones, gradually negating even the need to dock most of the time. It's so easy to just go AFK in them. I think they should charge by the hour, and require rentals for inventory. If we stopped automatically thinking of inventory as forever, it wouldn't be such a big hurdle to implement station destruction.

As far as current gen stations and crime are concerned, station guns should be independent of concord. They should just respond to all flagging by opening fire. Simple, easy nimbyism. Cater to the convenience of no-one. Who ever had the notion that war was supposed to be easy? War is hell.

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