Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Dear CCP,

I do not know why you let some of the players whom have no understanding of what a tech 3 ship is made you nerf them. Tech 3 ships are not overpowered and never have been. T3 ships were just before their time and all the other ships were underpowered. You have buffed all the other ships so t3's don't seem overpowered anymore. Then some many many players fail to see what a t3's ships is, so I will in the simplest why I can think of try to once again explain it.

A t3's ship is basically a hybrid cruiser devised from the top T2 cruisers of the 4 empires and from sleeper technology which is far more advanced then the 4 empires technology. Now if you take the strengths of the 4 empires t2 ships and you add the strengths of sleeper ships, which are their tanks and dps, would they not be far superior to T2 ships? so why then do many of you expect t2 ships to be better than t3 ships? CCP has already made it to where no T3 can our perform the specific roles of the various t2 ships, as in a Loki can not be fit to have longer web range than a Rapier, a Proteus can not be fit to have longer point range than a Arazu, ect.....

Ok going a little further, I'm sure all of you remember the movie Independence Day. Do you remember the alien ship that the Americans had, now take the top Fighter jet the Americans have and add just the shield technology(tank), the anti-gravity(speed) and weapons(dps) from the alien ship to the fighter jet. Now wouldn't that fighter jet be far superior? That my fellow Eve players is what a tech 3 ship is. I beg you CCP not to nerf the tech 3's tanks as it is what makes a t3 ship a tech 3 ship.............

Do go on about how a cruiser with a bigger tank than just about every battleship is balanced.

A better fix/change for t3's is to increase the risk to reward of flying a t3 ship. Tech 3 ships are the only player flyable ships in Eve that use sleeper technology. So since they use sleeper tech and since the sleeper pilots are suppose to be in Virtual reality suspension why not make it to where when you are flying a t3 ship you are much more a part of the ship. As in when in a t3 ship you have to manually eject from the ship before it is destroyed or not only do you lose the ship, you lose your pod. Also when you eject the ship auto starts a 60 sec self-destruct count down and anyone who can fly the ship can broad it and stop the self-destruct. They way its more of a risk to fly a t3 and more of a reward to attack a t3

The real issue with t3s in general, and slippery tengus in particular, is mobility, not tank or dps. In the current risk aversion meta, nobody wants to lose boats, ever.

In the olden days, people used to actually commit to fights in battleships, you go in with everybody, fight and die with everybody. Explosions about. When your turn comes, you suck it up and take the pod express home. Chat over comms over kms and the betting pool on how long the guy with name starting "001" survived. A good day's work.

Have you ever seen 2 tengu blobs "fight" each other? It's like watching 2 retards trying to hit each other with sticks.

The last thing I want to hear from fc is warping tengu fleet to a damn safe. Yes, I know it's hard to scan down, that's exactly why. How about we all slug it out and die so everybody can go home?

Have soloed sites in drakes and ravens all the time. And Id be willing to pit a solo hyperion vs a solo sleeper bs most days. But most sites arent a 1 on 1 fight, theyre dozens of sleepers vs whatever you bring.

Gnosis is a JOVIAN battlecruiser and it barely excels at anything. It's a jack of all ace of none ship and it is Jovian. So please tell me how T3 ships with their sleeper tech outdo Jove ships? Seeing as now the Jove (Drifters) built the sleepers. T3s need sig radius increase and a cap reduction. The rest will fall in line.

If by tactics your mean orbit at 5km and shoot... yep totally better tactics with them tech 1 ships with at best, t2 equipment.

Uhm actually the Jove did not build the sleepers.....the sleepers ran into hiding from the Jove to secret awa their tech and avoid the accusation the Jovian Disease was their fault. Go read Templar One sometime....it explains it.

Please... let's not bring that up. Let the horrors of alphabetic primary sorting fade from living memory... *shudder*


Also yes, t3's need to be nerfed, although this round may have been slightly excessive while SP loss is still in the game.

Ishtar needed it even worse though, and it got a slap on the hand.

I feel your pain... almost.