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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#1 - 2015-02-26 20:52:06 UTC
good riddance :D
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-02-26 20:57:24 UTC
I'm gonna need more details like now
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2015-02-26 20:58:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Removing fighter assist mechanic and removing ability for fighters to warp off grid from the carrier.

As someone who has lost ships in Tama to the fighter assist mechanic, I say, sad to see it go. Just a case of huge whinge within the have-not part of the community, affecting another part of the community. "CCP please fix, because I'm too weak to" .
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#4 - 2015-02-26 20:58:31 UTC
Sigh... nerf into ground != balance...
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-02-26 20:58:33 UTC
drone assist an warp removed, sure thats what they said
Assassn Gallic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-02-26 20:59:55 UTC
When they remove the ability to assign surely they can give scan res back to fighters.

Fighters, bring back their Scan res! Fighter scan res thread
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#7 - 2015-02-26 21:01:12 UTC
Assassn Gallic wrote:
When they remove the ability to assign surely they can give scan res back to fighters.



sounds reasonable
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#8 - 2015-02-26 21:02:22 UTC
Please contract all unwanted Carriers to me. I will find a use for them.





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#9 - 2015-02-26 21:04:35 UTC
Remove assist, keep warp ability.

RIP ratting carrier if I have to recall fighters between each anom :(

Not like anyone actually used the warp follow feature in combat intentionally, since it just resulted in people warping around the system and keeping your DPS locked down until you recalled them to engage them again.
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#10 - 2015-02-26 21:08:55 UTC
Triage carrier pilots are real men. Skynet carrier pilots are cowardly little girls. We laugh at your dismay. :)
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#11 - 2015-02-26 21:11:28 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Sigh... nerf into ground != balance...


The only way to properly balance them (that I can think of) would have been to have boni from drone damage amplifiers, tracking computers and so forth not apply off grid. But I guess that's not something that CCP could have implemented easily, if at all, or else they probably would have done it.
Khan Agnon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-02-26 21:11:42 UTC
please link the carrier nerf
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#13 - 2015-02-26 21:13:12 UTC
Khan Agnon wrote:
please link the carrier nerf


CCP Rise just said so on the o7 show. Dev blog should be out tomorrow.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#14 - 2015-02-26 21:13:47 UTC
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Sigh... nerf into ground != balance...


The only way to properly balance them (that I can think of) would have been to have boni from drone damage amplifiers, tracking computers and so forth not apply off grid. But I guess that's not something that CCP could have implemented easily, if at all, or else they probably would have done it.


There are other ways to balance them - which I've explained in detail in atleast 2 other threads. But I guess basically commenting out a few lines of code is an effortless "fix"...................................
Gypsien Agittain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-02-26 21:13:51 UTC
I understand the reasoning towards eliminating fighter assist, but removing their ability to warp...
Have you ever checked the cost, size and attributes of a ******* fighter?

Do you ever think what you do or just roll a dice? Does any of the developers actually play the game? Another absurd change to totally **** your most loyal players, capital ones.
Just remind who are the guys playing the games for years: the same people you keep on ruining game experience for the last 6 months.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#16 - 2015-02-26 21:14:25 UTC
Khan Agnon wrote:
please link the carrier nerf

Link what. It was just announced in the o7 show.

Devblog post coming tomorrow apparently and I'd assume, with an associated feedback thread.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#17 - 2015-02-26 21:15:01 UTC
Khan Agnon wrote:
please link the carrier nerf


It's from the o7 show which just aired.

TLDR: Removing fighter assist and warp ability, Ishtars get 16.7% dps nerf and a tiny range nerf, all railguns are being toned back, Tengu resist bonus halved, other t3's resist bonus dropping by a quarter, bouncers getting tiny nerf....


Oh and CCP are announcing the next sov overhaul early next week.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-02-26 21:17:58 UTC
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Sigh... nerf into ground != balance...


The only way to properly balance them (that I can think of) would have been to have boni from drone damage amplifiers, tracking computers and so forth not apply off grid. But I guess that's not something that CCP could have implemented easily, if at all, or else they probably would have done it.

at this point CCP just needs to ball up and remove every capital from the game

because as it is every time capitals come up, its a nerf, nerf nerf nerf. hell, the titan is literally a bus, it has next to 0 combat use unless the enemy has their own cap fleet, that is usually more effective to just counter with dreads anyways, for the most part capitals and subs even on the same grid at this point are fighting separate fights, because of all the restrictions on who can damage what for *balance*

its a joke. just ******* delete them if you want them to be nothing more than bragging rights and glorified freighters
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#19 - 2015-02-26 21:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Sigh... nerf into ground != balance...


The only way to properly balance them (that I can think of) would have been to have boni from drone damage amplifiers, tracking computers and so forth not apply off grid. But I guess that's not something that CCP could have implemented easily, if at all, or else they probably would have done it.

at this point CCP just needs to ball up and remove every capital from the game

because as it is every time capitals come up, its a nerf, nerf nerf nerf. hell, the titan is literally a bus, it has next to 0 combat use unless the enemy has their own cap fleet, that is usually more effective to just counter with dreads anyways, for the most part capitals and subs even on the same grid at this point are fighting separate fights, because of all the restrictions on who can damage what for *balance*

its a joke. just ******* delete them if you want them to be nothing more than bragging rights and glorified freighters


Just applying titan style damage scaling with sig on fighters (NOT with the same parameters as titans use) would go a long way to fixing the issue alone as they'd no longer be able to insta-blap frig sized targets without some significant on-grid assistance from bonused webbing/tping ships with minimal knock on effect to fighter use in other scenarios.

EDIT: As an aside fighter damage to anything sub BC sized should be fairly minimal IMO anyhow in the overall balance of things - you've got the appropriate sized drones for that.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#20 - 2015-02-26 21:28:16 UTC
I would have settled for them fighters to be vulnerable to ewar...

Absolute removal though, that removes people getting mad at losing their fighters.
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