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SOE Epic Story Arc - Killing Dagan
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Quanah Comanche
#21 - 2015-01-07 02:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Quanah Comanche
You are turning into a deadly capsuleer All Caps guy!


Gotta say it is refreshing to see a new player having fun and "getting it!"
Batman Zur-En-Arrh
#22 - 2015-02-20 19:02:32 UTC
I actually solo'd him with ease in my first 30 days, also flying an Algos. Honestly tho, the strategy would probably work with any Destroyer, especially ones able to use Drones.

As many have said, what makes Dagan so tough is his shield tank but what nobody has mentioned so far is that this is an active shield tank. This means it relies on cap and is thus a weakness that can be exploited by even a new pilot.


  1. Arm yourself with a nos/neut, AB and blasters. You ill probably want some kind of tank as well. If you can use Drones, load up with Hobgoblins. Bring plenty of ammo - enough to last you at least 5-10 minutes on constant firing (hopefully you won't need it all but better to have a cushion).
  2. Approach Dagan as usual.
  3. Launch Drones and have them attack as soon as they are able. They won't do much at first but they serve as a good indicator for when his tank is broken.
  4. Burn towards him and as soon as you are in range, activate your nos/neut.
  5. Orbit at 500m. With your AB on, he'll have a very difficult time hitting you.
  6. If you are using Drones, just orbit and wait - don't open fire yet. If not using Drones, only fire one gun.
  7. Wait until he is no longer regenerating shield. This may take a minute or two, which is why you aren't firing all your weapons yet. No need to waste ammo, right?
  8. Once damage is lingering, open fire with all blasters.
  9. ???
  10. Profit!


Every so often, his cap will be charged enough for a cycle of shield regen but he won't be able to sustain it as long as you have the nos on him. Just keep the pressure up and he'll drop in no time.

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-02-20 20:19:43 UTC
think the best way to do this arc these days is in a combat interceptor, 8au warp speed makes the time -consuming part of this arc (travelling) easy enough.

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ficr
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-02-21 01:44:51 UTC
Batman Zur-En-Arrh wrote:
I actually solo'd him with ease in my first 30 days, also flying an Algos. Honestly tho, the strategy would probably work with any Destroyer, especially ones able to use Drones.

As many have said, what makes Dagan so tough is his shield tank but what nobody has mentioned so far is that this is an active shield tank. This means it relies on cap and is thus a weakness that can be exploited by even a new pilot.


  1. Arm yourself with a nos/neut, AB and blasters. You ill probably want some kind of tank as well. If you can use Drones, load up with Hobgoblins. Bring plenty of ammo - enough to last you at least 5-10 minutes on constant firing (hopefully you won't need it all but better to have a cushion).
  2. Approach Dagan as usual.
  3. Launch Drones and have them attack as soon as they are able. They won't do much at first but they serve as a good indicator for when his tank is broken.
  4. Burn towards him and as soon as you are in range, activate your nos/neut.
  5. Orbit at 500m. With your AB on, he'll have a very difficult time hitting you.
  6. If you are using Drones, just orbit and wait - don't open fire yet. If not using Drones, only fire one gun.
  7. Wait until he is no longer regenerating shield. This may take a minute or two, which is why you aren't firing all your weapons yet. No need to waste ammo, right?
  8. Once damage is lingering, open fire with all blasters.
  9. ???
  10. Profit!


Every so often, his cap will be charged enough for a cycle of shield regen but he won't be able to sustain it as long as you have the nos on him. Just keep the pressure up and he'll drop in no time.


So that's what "tanking" is.

I was running a mission where I ran into a "armor" tank and ran out of ammo.

Changed up to short range weapons and had my drone take out the shields. Right after she healed some armor I closed in and went for the throat. Afterwards I found out it was a cruiser...I'm still running frigates.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#25 - 2015-02-21 02:53:59 UTC
Well done! First time I ran that I used a very similar fit.

Recently ran it for the third time and decided to go silly and outfit a velator. Lost one to the escorts, learnt from that, and returned, kited the remaining escorts and finally despatched Dagan.
Sha'Kor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2015-02-21 10:31:33 UTC
Hello everyone, got questions about this epic arc,

How much isk can be earned and are there only security missions involved, or a mix of everything?
David Therman
#27 - 2015-02-21 12:07:24 UTC
Sha'Kor wrote:
Hello everyone, got questions about this epic arc,

How much isk can be earned and are there only security missions involved, or a mix of everything?


Just adding up the base rewards comes to roughly 14-15m, give or take, however that doesn't include the bounties on the rats, or indeed the value of any nice loot drops you might pick up, should you choose to loot everything. If you intend to do this then I'd recommend training for a salvage module if you can spare a high slot, or a salvage drone. It might not be worth as much as it was, but a few bits and pieces of t1 salvage can still be worth a bit to someone starting out.

As to your second question, it's not all security; there are a few distribution type missions thrown in, although if you're using a frigate there's one in particular where you may not have enough room to cram it in; I'd recommend taking a cargo extender if you're not using a destroyer. Apart from that, the majority is indeed combat, with one hack objective late on... they provide a free module to complete that though, so you don't have to bring anything specific for it.
Sha'Kor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-02-23 08:42:14 UTC
David Therman wrote:
Sha'Kor wrote:
Hello everyone, got questions about this epic arc,

How much isk can be earned and are there only security missions involved, or a mix of everything?


Just adding up the base rewards comes to roughly 14-15m, give or take, however that doesn't include the bounties on the rats, or indeed the value of any nice loot drops you might pick up, should you choose to loot everything. If you intend to do this then I'd recommend training for a salvage module if you can spare a high slot, or a salvage drone. It might not be worth as much as it was, but a few bits and pieces of t1 salvage can still be worth a bit to someone starting out.

As to your second question, it's not all security; there are a few distribution type missions thrown in, although if you're using a frigate there's one in particular where you may not have enough room to cram it in; I'd recommend taking a cargo extender if you're not using a destroyer. Apart from that, the majority is indeed combat, with one hack objective late on... they provide a free module to complete that though, so you don't have to bring anything specific for it.



Cool,

Think I'm gonna try my luck then :)

Thanks David
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-02-23 11:56:17 UTC
Sha'Kor wrote:
David Therman wrote:
Sha'Kor wrote:
Hello everyone, got questions about this epic arc,

How much isk can be earned and are there only security missions involved, or a mix of everything?


Just adding up the base rewards comes to roughly 14-15m, give or take, however that doesn't include the bounties on the rats, or indeed the value of any nice loot drops you might pick up, should you choose to loot everything. If you intend to do this then I'd recommend training for a salvage module if you can spare a high slot, or a salvage drone. It might not be worth as much as it was, but a few bits and pieces of t1 salvage can still be worth a bit to someone starting out.

As to your second question, it's not all security; there are a few distribution type missions thrown in, although if you're using a frigate there's one in particular where you may not have enough room to cram it in; I'd recommend taking a cargo extender if you're not using a destroyer. Apart from that, the majority is indeed combat, with one hack objective late on... they provide a free module to complete that though, so you don't have to bring anything specific for it.



Cool,

Think I'm gonna try my luck then :)

Thanks David


Do not leave it to luck .. look up the mission guides. Most of the missions are just distribution/travel but three in particular can be difficult/deadly. One has frigates that scram you and orbits too fast for new players with long range guns, one will neut you and then there is Dagan of course who needs good DPS to kill.
Koebmand
Silverflames
#30 - 2015-02-23 12:51:09 UTC
TRONEON wrote:

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Don't use 2 same type rigs, you get further on the stacking penalty, swapping one for a RoF rig (Small Bay Loading Accelerator) will increase your dps by 2% (with the extra time reloading included).
Sha'Kor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2015-02-23 17:45:42 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Sha'Kor wrote:
David Therman wrote:
Sha'Kor wrote:
Hello everyone, got questions about this epic arc,

How much isk can be earned and are there only security missions involved, or a mix of everything?


Just adding up the base rewards comes to roughly 14-15m, give or take, however that doesn't include the bounties on the rats, or indeed the value of any nice loot drops you might pick up, should you choose to loot everything. If you intend to do this then I'd recommend training for a salvage module if you can spare a high slot, or a salvage drone. It might not be worth as much as it was, but a few bits and pieces of t1 salvage can still be worth a bit to someone starting out.

As to your second question, it's not all security; there are a few distribution type missions thrown in, although if you're using a frigate there's one in particular where you may not have enough room to cram it in; I'd recommend taking a cargo extender if you're not using a destroyer. Apart from that, the majority is indeed combat, with one hack objective late on... they provide a free module to complete that though, so you don't have to bring anything specific for it.



Cool,

Think I'm gonna try my luck then :)

Thanks David


Do not leave it to luck .. look up the mission guides. Most of the missions are just distribution/travel but three in particular can be difficult/deadly. One has frigates that scram you and orbits too fast for new players with long range guns, one will neut you and then there is Dagan of course who needs good DPS to kill.


Ok, I've found a guide for the SOE epic arc, think I'm gonna follow it, looks legit SOE Epic Arc Guide
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#32 - 2015-02-23 21:08:22 UTC
TycoonSteve wrote:
As other people have pointed out, I be confused. It's not Dagan that neuts, it's the dude before.

I swear I've been neuted by Dagan before, at least twice actually.

It might depend on the race you are running it for. The last few times I've run it for Minmatar, I was only target painted.

The neut in the other missions isn't a concern because the NPC are so weak.
DfLo 1913
ScReWeD uP InC
#33 - 2015-05-09 04:18:51 UTC
I'm about to take Dagan out. o7 Thanks Guys

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#34 - 2015-05-10 02:28:54 UTC
That character an alt also? You, the player, have played EvE before?



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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2015-05-10 06:11:19 UTC
By the time you get to the Dagan mission, you've made more than enough for a cruiser and likely have begun training into one. This makes the process easier and prepares you to go straight into L2 missions thereafter - which you'll need a Cruiser for. I finished the arc within my first week in EvE - it was a great learning experience and felt like it kept me moving up the ladder in a natural feeling way.

In essence, L1s -- Sisters Arc -- L2s -- L3s --L4s. At that point, you can choose to do your faction epic Arc, branch into a new field or just keep grinding L4s.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#36 - 2015-05-10 15:23:17 UTC
Dagan doesn't hit very hard, he just has annoyingly high tank for an L1-equivalent mission, so yes, a cheap destroyer is the way to go, fit with every bit of damage you can find and minimal tank. It'll work for basically all races, though Algos is the obvious choice if you've got a choice.
Kido Soikutsu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2015-05-26 16:43:23 UTC
TRONEON wrote:
Sister of EVE Epic Story Arc - The Blood Stained Stars - Our Man Dagan

I noticed new players like myself asking in local for help to kill this guy a few times so thought I would show how I did it being a new player in the same boat. I am only a few days old and hardly any skills past lvl 1-2 but you can kill Dagan with a noob skilled Algos destroyer in just a minute or two of shooting with the right amount of damage to break his tank.

I used 3 t1 medium explosive damage drones and 5 t1 meta 4 blasters with cheapy faction antimatter ammo. Kill the escorts with light drones and then switch to mediums, orbit Dagan at 500m, web him and blast away until dead. The afterburner just means he can never hit you as long as you are orbiting him at 500m. He was dead in 1-2 mins with this setup. All he used on me was a target painter and that did not seem to do anything with my speed up.

Anyway hope that help my skills are crap and I am only 3+ days old char so it is possible. I chose Caldari option for the missions if that changes anything.

[Algos]
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I

Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer I
Upgraded Co-Processor
Drone Damage Amplifier I

Hobgoblin I x6
Valkyrie I x3

Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x1325
Antimatter Charge S x33210

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Skills that I have, Hardly any really.

Drones lvl 3
Light Drones lvl 1
Medium drones lvl 2

Cap Management and Cap Systems Op lvl 2
CPU management lvl 3
Electronic Upgrades lvl 1
Power grid management lvl 3
Weapon upgrades lvl 1

Gunnery lvl 3
Small Hybrid Turret lvl 3
Controlled Bursts lvl 2
Motion prediction, Rapid firing, Sharpshooter lvl 1

Navigation lvl 3
Acceleration control lvl 1
Afterburner lvl 1
Evasive Maneuvering lvl 1

Shield Management lvl 1
Shield Operation lvl 1
Shield Upgrade lvl 1
Tactical Shield Manipulation lvl 1

Gallente Destroyer lvl 3

Long Range Targeting lvl 1
Signature Analysis lvl 1
Targeting Management lvl 1




GREAT! thank you TRONEON ! very usefull! 16 hours skills!!!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#38 - 2015-05-26 19:35:15 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
TycoonSteve wrote:
As other people have pointed out, I be confused. It's not Dagan that neuts, it's the dude before.

I swear I've been neuted by Dagan before, at least twice actually.

It might depend on the race you are running it for. The last few times I've run it for Minmatar, I was only target painted.

The neut in the other missions isn't a concern because the NPC are so weak.
I've been neuted by him too, IIRC Dagan's fit and tactics change, or used to anyway, depending on the faction you team up with for the mission.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#39 - 2015-05-28 17:21:10 UTC
Done all faction except caldari few times. He used only TP and close range.
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