EVE General Discussion

Looking at your killboard OP , you never really seemed to 'care' about solo play to start with ...

I'm not sure you understand how many skills affect even frigate warfare and having them all at V adds up as 5% advantage in a few areas is critical in a close fight. I still don't have surgical strike or cap management V and those are each a 15 day train with +4 implants. Likewise acceleration control is 15 days, as is AF's V. Then full skills or nearly so in your preferred weapon system, and drones (interfacing V is 20 days). And being able to fly more than one type of frigate gives you a lot more options with respect to choosing fights. Just off the top of my head I'd say 6-9 months for a near perfect frigate pilot. Fairly daunting when you're on week one.

You sir, have no idea what you're talking about.


I've lived in black rise/ placid for about a year. It's still quite active, not as much as it was last summer/spring but there are fights to be found.

I've been quite inactive tho, not enought time to play and all. Also a lot of small gang/solo players I know either moved out or joined bigger corps so they're blobbing now.

Sometimes, you just have to YOLO in OP, even tho you think you can't win. **** just got more real.

Man , all these comments....

Solo PvP was around years ago, and is still around now - and i guarantee you it will be around for years to come simply because not all of us function in a small gang with different people ( i only fly with 2 or 3 people every now and again) , and honestly reading this **** makes me sad.

There is plenty of Solo PvP in this game you just gotta open your eyes and invest the Time Scouting, Baiting, and for the love of god 1v5 is still solo PvP even if there is Sentries on your Side, not to mention that eveyrone enjoys shooting my shinies :3

Not really... If you fly solo, you're basically just inviting a 5+ player gang drop (this is effectively guaranteed if you're flying anything larger than a cruiser). Broken local (they don't even have to undock to learn you're there), broken D-scan (tells them you're on your own), broken off-grid boosting (park their T3 or command ship 1km outside their POS shield where you can't touch it)...

I parked a battleship on a large hub and it didn't take more than a few minutes to have an interceptor drop and tackle me, at which point there was a huge spike in local and 3-4 more various cruisers and T3s arrived (not too mention whatever else was enroute, estimated at another 3-5 ships).

There's several scenarios:
1. You enter low-sec, anything worth engaging immediately notices the change in local, D-scans, docks, warps to a safe and cloaks or sprints to the safe confines of a POS.
2. You enter low-sec, there's nothing apparent to engage - except for the interceptor that has now undocked and begun actively probing you down. Soon to be followed by a tackle, spike in local and blob drop.
3. You enter low-sec, actually find something to engage (rare) - and successfully attain the coveted solo PvP! Until local spikes and the blob drops on you.
4. You say f**k it and go back to mining or missioning in high-sec.

Solo PvP outside of a frigate is basically dead.

You are basically wrong.

Really? How many players solo in a Battleship or Battlecruiser? Along with T3s, these pose such tempting targets that they rarely operate outside of a small group or without warfare links for support.

I really like this game, but sometimes I wonder why I still play. I haven't been in a Corp in years and play solo. But I'm so lousy at PVP, I stay docked most of the time or find other things to do. I have 120 Million SP but it's hard to get into a corp when you have no PVP skills after 6 years of playing.
After reading this thread, I'm gonna go out to Black Rise and see if I can get some solo PVP. I have lots of ISK and can afford to lose lots of cheap ships. Maybe I can pick up some skills and learn to fight, We'll see...

I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible.

Look I'm starting to get the feeling you are arguing simply for the sake of arguing, but the fact is I do understand exactly how many skills effect a frigate, because they are the exact same skills that effect EVERY other ship, the only difference after those skills are "perfect" (I will tell you right now having them perfect is NOT necessary) is you will be training different ships, or different weapons systems or whatever floats your boat. Not to mention lets say for the sake of argument you decide to fly minmatar, there is nearly zero reason to have near perfect drone skills so early in your career because your damage is not coming from them. Focus on what matters for your ship of choice, not on cutting a wide swath through every possibility early.

The moment you start spreading out your SP amongst various weapons systems as a new player is the moment you are running yourself into a wall for no other reason than "it's there so why not." There's a reason people tell you to specialize early and that's so you can be competitive early. That other stuff will come later once you have a better grasp of basic concepts, like SP distribution. Pick a ship, see what weapons it uses and train for those - you decide you like the rifter, focus on autos and turret related skills - you like the breacher, focus on rockets and launcher related skills instead. It's not hard, it just requires some semblance of self control.

As a side note your mention of AF's is a prime example of jumping into something too early. Get your basic skills up and fly the T1's you will not only have more real experience in PVP, so you are less likely to make bad decisions, but you should in theory be better situated on all the skills you actually need. Don't fall into the I "can" fly it so I should trap. Not to mention they are cheaper and literally just as capable in most situations.