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When am I allowed to Pod a player?
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Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#1 - 2015-02-17 15:19:32 UTC
I am usually never in highsec so I don't fully understand the Concord response.

Yesterday, just happened to be in highsec running a mission with multiple rooms and noticed that one of my MTUs had been destroyed in the first room. So I warped off refit my ship for PVP and went on the hunt to kill the player that attacked my MTU.

I found him in the final room attempting to destroy yet another on of my MTUs. So I burned in and locked him and destroyed his ship. He attampted to return fire without success. I allowed his pod to get away becuase I feared that I would get Concorded for podding him.

Could I have legally destroyed his capsule in that situation or not? He wasn't a WT or a criminal with very lowsec status.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2 - 2015-02-17 15:25:09 UTC
If your safeties are on yellow, and it lets you fire, you are allowed to pod that person. Easy as that.

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Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#3 - 2015-02-17 16:42:44 UTC
If you have a limited engagement with a pilot you can kill the pod. Doesn't matter if they were suspect or you were suspect when the engagement started.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#4 - 2015-02-17 16:51:31 UTC
To answer the question posed in the thread title: any time you want.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#5 - 2015-02-17 17:34:01 UTC
Styphon the Black wrote:
He attampted to return fire without success.


This will create a Limited Engagement. However, you could have podded the player legally anyway as he was obviously Suspect after blowing up your MTUs.
Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#6 - 2015-02-17 19:18:58 UTC
Thanks good to know for the future, if that type of situation should present itself again. Next time I will pod the player too.
Twisted
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2015-02-17 21:19:50 UTC
Switch safety to red. Now you're allowed to do anything you want.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
#8 - 2015-02-17 21:46:45 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Switch safety to red. Now you're allowed to do anything you want.







Key word is "legal". Without getting my ship destroyed by Concord.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-02-17 22:22:30 UTC
admiral root wrote:
To answer the question posed in the thread title: any time you want.


I was going to say "as soon as you get a lock".

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ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#10 - 2015-02-18 04:27:03 UTC
admiral root wrote:
To answer the question posed in the thread title: any time you want.


qft.

i hear minerbumping.com has gobs of info.
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#11 - 2015-02-18 04:31:17 UTC
Never not pod...it's like the icing on the cake. Twisted

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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#12 - 2015-02-18 04:34:02 UTC
If they've aggressed you, in any area of space, in any context; you're allowed to pod them.

If they're suspect, in any area of space, in any context, you're allowed to pod them.




Both of these are true no matter what your safety is set to.
Siegfried Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
Freighter Friends
#13 - 2015-02-18 04:47:47 UTC
just pod people at any time please
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2015-02-18 04:55:54 UTC
If your safety is yellow or green and the client lets you shoot a pod, that attack is legal.

This is the same in highsec and lowsec. (Note that in lowsec, the punishment for illegally podkilling is less than in highsec but still severe).

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Lord Parallax
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-02-19 11:37:50 UTC
NEVER remove the green status of your safety in High sec. if you are set to yellow you can aggress and be concorded
The only time you are allowed to agress a player ship OR pod is if they attacked you giving you a limited aggression timer, they are suspect or criminal OR you are at war with them.

Keep safety to green in high sec and just stay alert. if you get the chance to attack someone LEGALLY never ever let the pod go.
Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-02-19 11:44:50 UTC
Lord Parallax wrote:
NEVER remove the green status of your safety in High sec. if you are set to yellow you can aggress and be concorded

That's incorrect. If they are set to yellow you can't do anything that get's you concorded.

Yellow allows you to do things that get you a suspect timer - red allows you to do things that get you a criminal timer (which get's you concordokkened in high sec)
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#17 - 2015-02-19 11:46:10 UTC
Lord Parallax wrote:
[...] if you are set to yellow you can aggress and be concorded[...]

FALSE.

Yellow safety will allow you do actions that make you Suspect. A Suspect flag never summons Concord.