EVE General Discussion

Lets look on it realistically...
Lasers? Maaaaybe... But i think beam dispersion would be too big for lasers to be used in space for military purpose.You would most likely be limited to few thousands of kilometres. What is an effective range of nowadays military lasers? 10km, maybe less?. Also energy needed for sufficient laser beam is just TOO DAMN HIGH!
Guns? Maybe, I dont know what do normal guns use to burn its explosive propulsion for bullet. If this part of fuel would be provided in ammunition, i dont see much problems... Well, exept muzzle velocity would make its realistic rangehorrible... And its kinetic energy too...
Rockets? Great idea! Liquid fuel, some small maneuvering thursters,... Would work great, but i am affraid it would take just too much space... All that fuel for main propulsion, for maneuvering, warhead, liquid oxygen (or whatever) for warhead, probably nuclear warhead? or something like HEAT? Possibly thungsten or something, pure kinetic energy might be good enought... Problems? Too expensive, resources consuming, large...
Railguns? Yeah, EM guns would do wonder in space. They dont need any atmosphere, fuel,... just electromagnet. In way of energy consumption they take much less than lasers...

Possibilities of space combat?
1) Finding ship. Just try to find 100m object at 10000000km distance...
2) effective range. Not effective range of weapon, which is infinite (if you dont fire lasers, if you do, you are in kilometres...) but effective range to at least small possibility to hit. So lets say maximum of 30 light seconds distance, so something like 9000000km. Thats limit for missiles (you want to guid them to their target, right? Then you are limited by speed of light - how fast do you get information about target movement and give it to rocket to alter its path. It delay is too big, you will miss... 30s from target to you, 30s back, 1 minute delay could be quite accurate for spaceship battle)
For railguns, currently tested ones have muzzle velocity around 2500m/s (thats quite good, compared to something around 1000 for conventional firearms). Lets say you might by some devevlopment get to... 50km/s... It would be extremely hard to hit somethign with so slow. Not impossible, but hard... So railguns might be few thousands of kilometres range. Simmilar to laser, maybe lasers wont be so bad after all with its physically limited range simmilar to range limitation of railgun for accuracy reasons. And lasers would be extremely accurate on this distances... This also show that standart minmatar-like weapon systems is by far inferior to everything else. Sorry, slaves, no place for you in spacecombat :D

I would say missiles would be only real option for space battles, otherwise it would be too hard to even get in range to fight. Congratulations to Caldari state


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Ah drones! :D Lets just agree on what Primary said in both dogfights and drones
Dogfights? No. Inertia, fuel burned in dogfights,...
In fact, drones possible? Why not? With drones its a bit hadred to justify why not, but lets say it would need normal size weaponry to be useful, huge ammounts of fuel to get into position, pobably just a bit less fuel capacity than main ship. They would have to be undocked and moved into position long before fight will even begin, they would take much more space than rockets when they are on ship moving elsewhere, their operation range would be limited simmilar way as what i describe for rockets and their weaponry would have same limitation as main weapons would have. And if anything goes wrong, without crew it would be much harder to do maintenance and repair jobs on them. Verdict, they gives no real advantage and many disadvantages (imagine how many rockets would fit into place for just a few drones...)

Well. Did you see the engine on that thing? Sure, it dropped off. But, if you want to talk speed, you have to talk the engine. It was a pre-catalytic converter modified Twin-V Harley. I think they kept the plush dice mirror hangers. Side note: They were runnin' with a Craig 8-Track playin' The Stone's Sticky Fingers...in QUAD!

We already have the sufficient brightness for background nebulas, so all we would need is just minor details here and there, and the "sky" can easily be made to look like a fishtank.

Eve may appear to be a submarine simulator.

It is really a "Rubber Duck in a bathtub simulator".

This can be demonstrated by examining the collision model and also the way your ship bobs up and down when parked near a celestial.

I thought warp drive coils/whatever were always online. Which means you're always interacting with "extra matter". So if you completely shut down your warp drive you'd be able to kick Apollo 11's rear end.

Your crew would probably mutiny immediately after shutting down your standby warp drive.

Pretty sure your ships life expectancy would be a matter of days as well. Since you're litterally a sitting duck with a known trajectory, even if you did change course it's not like you can hide in space. Seriously what could be more delicious than a ship that can't run away.

Submarines in space gravy.

The reason for it is: Gameplay

The in-game fluff-oriented reason is that warp drives / inertial dampeners cause a sort of drag, limiting a ships sub-warp speeds.

That being said, EVE warp speeds are ridiculous even compared to other science fiction. Interceptors flying around 10 AU/s? Literally seconds from our sun to the edge of our solar system.

Speed of light is nowhere even close to 2 AU/s. The sun is 1 AU from the earth, and light takes 7-8 minutes to reach us from the sun.

Speed of light is 7.21 AU/h, or 0.12 AU/s

EDIT: 0.002 AU/s and 0.12AU/min

I stand corrected. It is 0.12 AU/minute and 0.002AU/s

a shame they don't count virtual transportation, cuz there was a time when you could fit and activate multiple MWDs on any individual ship...

imagine a dramiel with 4 MWDs...