EVE General Discussion

so i was ganked in hi sec yesterday by 3 destroyers...even with all my drones trained to Adv.
l5 and a fleet t2 shield harmony boost plus all the fleets drones set to guard my ship...i lost the attack. My fleet boosters drones did'nt even respond to the attack but just before that they responded to some rats that came in. After i lost my ship i docked at the station and thats where the gankers went also, they sure enjoyed making fun in local so i set it up so anyone i my corp could kill them. Well that did'nt work either, as soon as my corp member undocked and seen them he locked on and fired but was destroyed by concord. He tried to dock when they started shooting but got the message ( docking not allowed because he agressed another pilot or something) i guess this game is set up to make no sense to me at all. i checked under my killrights and it was set so anyone in my corp could kill but it did'nt work and so another ship was lost. All i wanted to do was mine alittle in hisec but might be better off in lowsec for all the good it did me. anyone else feeling cheated lately ? Wish i could just once feel like my time and training was worth all the years invested in this game . FEELING RIPPED OFF...Cheers

yeah high sec is dangerous, and hulks are just so damned easy to gank. i feel so happy i moved out of there long before this ganking thing really became so popular.

come on you know they dont think they are doing good thats just trolling

They wont. Although your fleet booster had "permission" to engage (as the gankers were criminal flagged), his drones would not automatically engage, as doing so would open up a limited engagement between your booster and the gankers, enabling them to freely "defend themselves". Granted, in this case it wouldn't have mattered as Concord was inbound from the gank, so your booster was safe from reprisals, but the game does go out of its way to protect you from accidentally opening yourself up to limited engagements. Rats are different since they can shoot back already, the same aggression rules do not apply.


Assuming you set the killright up correctly, your friend still needs to activate it. If your friend didn't activate the killright, the engagement isn't authorised.


Once you initiate aggression you are locked out of stations, and prevented from using gates for a minute (that minute starts when you stop engaging). In your friends case he needed to warp his pod out while the aggression timer ticked down.

You've been playing a game for years and don't know how it works?

That's pretty much the definition of High Sec. Players in low, null and wormhole space are FORCED to learn the game mechanics because not learning them results in frequent losses. But a player can go years in high sec without having anything bad happen (I know, 8 years of high sec with only two attempted ganks, none successful).

You are feel 'cheated' when you should be feeling a sense of "I need to get better at this game'.

The drones on a Coveter/Retriever/Hulk/Mackinaw aren't going to be killing much more than belt rats. At max skills you'll be doing around 100ish dps with a flight of T2 Hobs. A Skiff with a T2 drone damage amp will do around 185ish dps with max skills and T2 hobs and that still won't be killing much on it's own.

Just FYI.

Cheers to you mate. If someone can chase you out of a video game activity , you probably shouldn't have been doing that activity (or playing that game...or using the internet) in the 1st place.

The game isn't rigged to cater to anyone...except smart people over...less smart people. Your options are quit or be less 'less smart' lol.

Also, if you're going to do the drone bunny thing in a mining fleet, keep in mind that you'll need some kind of offensive module on your ship (i.e. a warp disruptor) because afaik your drones engaging something won't cause the rest of the fleets drones to move in. And if you go that route, make sure that the thing you shoot is legal to shoot, else you get your entire fleet concorded.

*dodges onslaught of "EVE ain't safe nowheres*

You were just a victim of "content creation". You weren't creating content by playing. Nooooo. THEY were creating content by ganking you. It's how CCP welcomed the WoW refugees. CCP is the only one that did. All other games in the world just told them to learn this isn't WoW. But, ganking in the minds of CCP is some sort of genius on the fly.
One has to wonder. Not about gankers. We all know what they are, but CCP....then, I digress.

Sorry for your loss. You'll know better now. To all others. Don't come in here and speak about it! Free speech here means, any criticism of this infantile idiocy means you'll be accused of being a VICTIM! YES! It's true! In fact,
consider GD the grease trap of the internet....that little crook in your sink drain..

Good thing this is not a redundant thread.

OP, here's a link that will help you and your corp mates understand killrights better:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kill_rights

In relation to your choice to stop mining. I assume up to this point playing eve for several years in highsec that this is the first time you've been ganked? If that's correct, doesn't that show you not how dangerous highsec is, but how generally safe it is? If you've only been killed once in several years of play, there's not a lot of risk and no real need to change your play if you don't want to.