EVE New Citizens Q&A

Long story short, on my main character I have a decent number of skills, isk and even experience. But none of that experience has come from living in Null Sec, and very little from living in Low Sec. My pvp experience is limited, but I understand at least most of the basics.

I am kind of excited about it, but it seems that although there will be others going, and some there who will welcome us. the things that I do not know seem a bit overwhelming. But I want to throw myself into it, soak up all I can, and thereby fill the largest gap in my experience in this game, with the idea being that it will then become my main interest.

I have held back for my time here to get to the point I felt I would really be able to adapt and grow quickly, and now opportunity has really presented itself.

So for those of you with relevant advice and something to say that I can use to make this go as well as possible, as quickly as possible, when I conquer the universe, your lives will of course be spared.

But seriously, I am asking for your advice and experience, and I will be in your debt if you share some of what you have learned with me, and I am sure others who will read this, if it goes well.

^ That sums it up quite succinctly. Only thing I'd add to that- know who your neighbours are, and know who would want to take them out.

Remember to say a last farewell to hi-sec ... because if you are one of those who fits into null, you won't ever want to go back.

- learn to interceptor
- dont warp straight to gates if neuts or reds in local
- fly cloakies but learn mwd / cloak trick
- solo pvp doesnt happen often

Get to know your home. You will do a lot of travelling around your space. Make sure you know the trouble-spots where enemies tend to hang out, the alternative routes to get around those trouble spots, if your alliance (or friendly alliances) have jump-bridges, make sure you know where they are and where they go to. There will be many a time you will find yourself in space, without back-up, and with hostiles trying to take a bit out your ass. Make sure when that happens you know everything about your surroundings to make them have to work to get you.

Bookmarks, bookmarks, and more bookmarks. Setup several tactical bookmarks in your personal folder in your home system on each gate, on station (include undock bookmarks), on each asteroid field, on each planet, on each of your corps "equipment" like SBU. Once you have these setup, do the same for each connecting system then work your way outwards to the other systems. Why personal, I can just use my corp bookmarks? Spies can also use your corp bookmarks. AWOXers can also use your corp bookmarks. Corp bookmarks are good to get you started, but always assume corp bookmarks are compromised.

Take the advice mentioned above and keep in mind, not just the advice, but the why. You'll learn a lot faster if you understand why things happened when you fail or see someone else fail.

a more extreme way to learn everything the fastest, is to do two things:
1. Find out who the helpful people are - Learning from others can be invaluable in saving time and effort trying to figure things out. Even knowing somone who has all the info-sites bookmarked can be useful if google is being worthless. Some people just love to ramble and ramble and will tell you everything you do and dont want to know about anything.
2. Start fresh - first time i went to null i had no way of moving any of my assets to anywhere. My only option then was to hop in my jaguar and start burning. I learned a lot about how things worked when my resources were limited and each loss taught me a bit more than it normally would have since it was more valuable.

The second one isnt entirely necessary, but it did shape my experience pretty well.

I think you're right, more because of the attitude than the actual non-participation. I've certainly known people and corporations who happily focused on industry or PVE in nullsec. However, to live that kind of lifestyle you have to enjoy the danger -- enjoy watching local and trying to evade pursuit while still doing the anomalies or the belts. There's some fun in doing an escalation in hostile territory, or scouting the enemy's asteroid belts for a commander NPC.

If on the other hand you simply dock up every time a neutral is sighted in a nearby system, and gripe about the distraction, you aren't going to enjoy 0.0.

I beg to differ with both of you here. I understand that I am not the norm and that there are probably few people like me in game. however I'm not looking for the game to change to suit my play style so it should not be an issue.

The original comment that I replied to was "There is no such thing a non-pvper in 0.0" which I assume he meant to put an "as" in there but I quoted verbatim. I only wanted to point out that I am one. I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong just incase there is someone else like myself thinking about it they know that it is possible to live in null if you are not a PvPer. I would argue that it's the ideal place to live if you are not a PvPer but that discussion would likely derail this thread so I'll stay on topic.

Since the OP said he was a long time high sec dweller with "limited" PvP experience I feel my perspective on this is relevant and hopefully helpful or at least encouraging or take some of the apprehension out of it for him.

So I watch some of the fanfest discussions and read a fair portion of the dev blogs when they come out. CCP is constantly talking about ways to get more players into null sec including the non-hardcore PvP types and strait out carbear industrialists. I seem to recall the industry changes of about a year ago were to in some part that end.

If high sec players keep coming to the forums to ask for advice about moving to null and all that they get is a whole bunch of posts saying that you had better be ready to PvP all day and all night or GTFO then players that are curious about it but have some apprehension will be less likely to make the move and non-PvP types will just not go.

So even in what I guess a PvPer could call a worst case scenario where you have a player in your corp that just undocks and rats for a few hours a day and does nothing else he is contributing to the corp wallet at what ever rate the tax is set at. To me it would seem having a guy come to null and buy stuff off the local market and contribute taxes to the corp wallet is better than him staying in high sec and not joining your corp.

I was in a corp once where we lived in a worm hole for several years. It was an industrial corp and most of the corp mates did not PvP. We had several players that would only come in when there was a grav site and run the site and move the ore out and then give the corp a percentage of what the ore sold for. We were never short on isk for PoS fuel never had to ask anyone to kick in extra isk it always worked out.

I am of the opinion that if you are leadership level in a null sec alliance and can't figure out a way to allow players to contribute in their own way and not make everyone fit into some box, if you can't find a way to accommodate varying playstyles then you just are not very good at leading. I mean people are allowed to run their alliance in what ever way that they want it's just that if you are saying that you want more people to come play in null sec in one breath and then saying don't come to null sec unless you are hardcore leet PvP or GTFO then that is a little like Orwellian doublethink.