EVE New Citizens Q&A

A Covert Ops frigate and good scanning skills is all you really need. Everyone can use a good scout for searching for combat, logistics or isk making opportunities. This also allows you to make some idle ISK from exploration sites.

Other than that, you can survive with fairly little.

I would advice against training for battleships early, as they are skill intensive and have very little use in Wormholes. After getting your covops and combat probing skills in order, I'd recommend picking one race and training the t2 and t3 cruisers for it. If you want to specialize further, pilots with good skills for Logistics ships or Interdictors and Heavy Interdictors are always in demand.

There is only one thing that pretty much every wormhole corp will expect you to bring: something that can scan down wormholes. (preferably something that can fit a CovertOPs cloaking device)

Everything else really depends on the corp you are joining.
Generally you'll want to focus your training towards (armor*) cruisers, as they are used a lot more than battleships.

*most groups fly armor doctrines in w-space

You can start with fairly low sp in wormholes. Generally Tengu is for C3 solo site clearing.

C2 sites can be easily cleared with a decently skill battlecruiser and C1 is generally not worth living in.

Find a smaller WH corp that lives in a C2 or C3 and you can run those in a drake or drone ship alone or with friends.

I joined a wormhole corp living in a C2 with 2m SP.

That's extremely low, but I at start I was only able to :

- Fly an Imicus and scan signatures, with Astrometrics level 2 (which is bad)

And that was enough. However you won't go far without any covert ops cloaking device. If you want to be comfortable and not an easy kill mail, train asap :

- Cloaking IV
- Covert Ops IV

I am at 7m SP now (yay) and I am still doing mainly scanning. I like it, and my corpmate seems to like having a filled siggy map. I am not asking for more :)

If you want to join a WH Corp only for ISK, you won't earn a lot without being able to solo clean sites or so. I believe you should train some PI skills and some Gas Harvesting skills

When people say 15 million skill point minimum it's not necessarily just the skill points that they are looking for. They also know how long it will take you to get those skill points it's really more game knowledge than skill points. Once you have some halfway decent scanning skills you can be fine and helpful in a wormhole corp but you need to understand how to operate in there and be decent at PvP to help people that get caught with their pants down.

If you were an experienced null or low sec pilot and made an alt that had halfway decent scanning skills and could fly a T3 cruiser decently then you could be taught how to operate in wormhole space in an evening. If you buy a 100 million skill point character and don't understand the basics of the game you will be mostly useless.

In wormhole space you will do group stuff but you also have to be able to operate on your own and know how to scout and gather and relay intel in an effective manner.

However living in wormhole space in a wormhole focused corp and dabbling in wormhole space are two different things. When you feel comfortable with your piloting skills and a little adventurous find a worm hole and go in and check it out. You can start out in a T1 scanning frig with a T1 cloak. Jump in, bookmark the exit, make a safe spot and then cloak up and scan down every sig. If you want you can come back with some friends in cheap combat ships and try some combat sites or maybe just do the hacking sites.

The main point is that there is a lot of room in between never having been in a wormhole and living in one full time. You can work from one towards the other. Also if you can find one of the newer wormholes with the stations in them then that would be like a halfway in between null and wormhole space.

If you are going in on your own just to have a look around practice gathering intel. Find out what sites are in there if the hole is occupied if so by who and to what extent, Find out how active the residents are if any and try and figure what timezone that they operate in. This type of intel gathering experience will help you out a lot. If you get good at it you will be infinately useful to any wormhole corp regardless of your skill points and you only need a T2 scanning frig and decent scanning skills to be good at it skill point wise.

One reason that 15m SP is a common request is that it makes carrying out a corp theft much more of an investment. A corp that requests a skillpoint minimum is usually one that has a clue about how to defend its assets from theft.

If you ask them they will often let you fly alongside them as a probationary member with less SP than their recommended amount, but without letting you use their POS(s). This will help you get a sense of whether you get along with the people or not, and also will help you decide whether you want to betray them or not.

Thank you for the really great advice. At first I plan to just try out the WH lifestyle and see if it agrees with me, so I am likely to start it on my own.

As suggested I will first get hold of a scanning ship and go mess around in them for a bit. I will probably lose a few, but that is part of the learning process, and if there wasnt any risk I probably would not enjoy it.

If I still enjoy WH's and have learned all I can solo, then I will look into a corp. I dont really want to waste anyones time training me, and then I find I dont enjoy it and leave.

This game has a huge learning curve all of us vets had to go through it and almost none of us would still be here had it not been for vets back then helping us noobs. We know that and remember it and also are aware that we need to pay it forward for this game to grow.

This is not like a lot of other games where a new player is useless until they get level capped. In eve you are useful from day 1. Like other's have pointed out corp theft is the reason so many wormhole corps are so cautious about new players. PoS life makes you very susceptible to corp theft. If not for that fact and the fact that CCP uses corp theft as an advertising slogan many worm hole corps would be much more eager to take on new players.

It's not so much that you are a new player as it is that they don't know that you are not a vet pretending to be a new player. Don't think that just because you are new and need some hand holding doesn't mean that you can't be helpful. In eve you need to jump in with both feet and not be afraid to ask for help as long as you aren't begging for handouts.

Dscan is an odd one. Sure i dscan all the time and have heart attacks everytime i forget i am in HS. But it almost never saves you. Anyone hunting in WH space worth their salt, have cloaky eyes on you and can get tackle on you faster than dscan these days. Esp the with warp changes with interecpters and sabers etc. It is not like you can fly aligned all the time.

You get dropped. You will die, you will find yourself doing serious PvP in PvE ships...

D-scan is also your only indicator barring probes that something is in the system and if you get jumped means there's a hole you missed since you did had eyes & ears (alts) on each hole didn't you ?
You don't need to fly aligned if you know what's going on in your wh chain, especially you need to be careful if there are c6/c5 with a known large wh group as they have enough manpower to have eyes everywhere in the chain.

D-scan is also used to find people sitting in anomalies since it doesn't scare the fish unlike combat probes do.