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Drifters and the Talocan / Sleeper connection.

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Sovauthority Sov-Rus
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#1 - 2015-02-15 05:14:36 UTC
Historically, we have archaeological records suggesting there was a strong Sleeper - Jovian connection. The Sleepers were also sick of the Jovian disease, but their mastery of virtual technology allowed them to upload themselves to a worry free virtual world. However, this was only a temporary cure, and the Sleepers continued searching far, reaching into w-space to find fresh DNA that could fix their corrupt DNA. The Sleepers' search for the cure led to the Talocan and the Jan Yung being extinguished. This gives us evidence, based of all research and archaeological reports, that the Sleepers took what they wanted, and because of their Gene manipulation, could perceive genocide differently as we do.

Now, at first I thought that the Circadian Sleepers returned to k-space to scan us, humans, to check if our DNA is uncorrupted by radiation from the EVE gate (perhaps that's what The Scope meant by communicating with implants in capsuleers? Communicating in a frequency sense? Analyzing what is compatible and not). Now, learning of the Drifters, made me think how many connections and sub-factions the Jove really have? We also don't know if the Sleepers are extinct or remain in their virtual worlds.

So based on history, is it possible that the Drifters were the assault force on the Talocans? Texts state that Drifters are ancient as well. It's also worthy to note that the Talocans were settled in a different galaxy, and the Drifters travel via Wormholes as well, so have they come from Talocan space?

Judging from the fate of the Talocans, is it possible the Circadians were just a scouting force, and the Drifters found what they were looking for? A cure for their disease? Us?

Do the Drifters also carry the Jovian disease? Most likely, but are they the more aggressive sub-faction, and must we be on the defense and full alert from them?
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#2 - 2015-02-15 06:06:58 UTC
as Mr. T-jovian once said.

" I Pitty a fool that tries to drop a titan on a drifter"


ccp says.. I dare you to escalate against the.................DRIFTER SWARMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
Higgs Foton
Mission And Mining Inc
#3 - 2015-02-15 10:01:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Higgs Foton
Yeahyeah, maybe the drifters are demons from hell who escaped from a similar place like in Doom. Or maybe they are the advanced form of the dominion from star trek. Or perhaps they are Vogons and their weapons fire not energy but poems.

But lets not forget what is the most important, and i see people talking on here about where they come from and what they are, but they leave out one very important question:

WHAT DO THEY DROP?

Because i am very interested in superior weapons technology to help the benevolent and friendly faction of Goonswarm, and their most esteemed allies in the CFC, against the raging hordes of our arch enemy the Guristas (we are just barely holding the line high sec carebears!).

Also if they drop stuff which is worth many ISK's (like in 100 million isk/hr at least) i am very interested to hear about this.

kthxbye.
Sovauthority Sov-Rus
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#4 - 2015-02-15 11:14:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Sovauthority Sov-Rus
They're meant for lore.. Like the Circadians, the Drifters don't drop loot or have bounty on them. Loot can be your most important thing, my important thing is the story of the EvE Universe. There's other ways to obtain awesome loot.
Higgs Foton
Mission And Mining Inc
#5 - 2015-02-15 16:27:23 UTC
ok, thank you. Thats what i want to know.

So i can ignore the drifters for the time being. Good.
Elena Morin'staal
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-02-16 14:12:49 UTC
Sovauthority Sov-Rus wrote:
Historically, we have archaeological records suggesting there was a strong Sleeper - Jovian connection.


That and its pretty much stated outright in Templar One that Sleepers are a group of Jove.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2015-02-16 14:52:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
Milla Goodpussy wrote:
as Mr. T-jovian once said.

" I Pitty a fool that tries to drop a titan on a drifter"


ccp says.. I dare you to escalate against the.................DRIFTER SWARMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!


Titan not required. A dreadnought and a webbing escort will do.

Also, as of Thursday night, they drop no loot and give Basic Large Sleeper Wreck salvage. I killed about 8 of them with a dread and got all of 20M isk in salvage. Most of that was 5 melted nanoribbons.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#8 - 2015-02-16 16:30:07 UTC
Sleepers still exist in their virtual world, as military forces and teams of scientist continue to rip the implants from their bodies they hauled from the wormholes in working containment units that were once part of their station. Lets not forget the Empresses 2nd voice and his plans for the ones that followed him in the virtual world.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Sovauthority Sov-Rus
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#9 - 2015-02-16 22:47:34 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Sleepers still exist in their virtual world.


Yes, most likely Sleepers do still exist in their virtual world, one which we cannot yet penetrate due to our inferior technology. But this doesn't answer who the Drifters are. Are they a special operations / Seek and Destroy group of the Sleepers? Its seen that Drifter Battleships scan just as the Circadian Sleepers do. Are they preparing to take something, something of their interests, that would allow the Sleepers to safely exit their virtual world without the risk of the Jovian disease for them? Something of their interest that has to do with us?

As the Drifters image quotes "Capsuleers will no doubt play an integral part of their plan". Is that a threat to us?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#10 - 2015-02-16 23:25:42 UTC
Talocans have abandoned our ruined kingdoms. We will not meet them, until we will be able to open the hidden doors to their own world. To do that, we will have to ascend to the next level of understanding the world around us. It means being something other than human. It means being something more than human can be. It means developing the mind that can pass thru the veil of human limitations and ignorance. To understand them is to become one, as they are all one and limitless and allseeing. Ascended.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2015-02-17 02:01:52 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Talocans have abandoned our ruined kingdoms. We will not meet them, until we will be able to open the hidden doors to their own world. To do that, we will have to ascend to the next level of understanding the world around us. It means being something other than human. It means being something more than human can be. It means developing the mind that can pass thru the veil of human limitations and ignorance. To understand them is to become one, as they are all one and limitless and allseeing. Ascended.


Or they may be dead, just sayin' P

Sovauthority Sov-Rus wrote:
As the Drifters image quotes "Capsuleers will no doubt play an integral part of their plan". Is that a threat to us?


That will be revealed very soon- I doubt they are here to destriy us; instead, I figure that we would be "useful" if we fight the same enemy as them, and "misbehaved children" if we fight them Smile
Sovauthority Sov-Rus
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#12 - 2015-02-17 02:48:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sovauthority Sov-Rus
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Talocans have abandoned our ruined kingdoms. We will not meet them, until we will be able to open the hidden doors to their own world.


Actually, it's thought that the Talocans were settled in a nearby galaxy, and the Sleepers attacked them in search for pure DNA (their DNA was not corrupted by radiation from the EVE gate blast because of their distance to it). It is believed, that the Talocans were more Pacifist and were not expected to be attacked. The Sleepers took what they wanted from them, and performed much experiments on them, and eventually led to the eradication of the Talocans. Locations that left Talocan remains, such as the Devil's Dig Site, gives evidence that the Talocans weren't permanently settled in the cluster. Just, exploring perhaps. Soo..

My question remains.. Were the Drifters perhaps one of the attacking forces on the Talocans?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#13 - 2015-02-17 10:57:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Talocans have abandoned our ruined kingdoms. We will not meet them, until we will be able to open the hidden doors to their own world. To do that, we will have to ascend to the next level of understanding the world around us. It means being something other than human. It means being something more than human can be. It means developing the mind that can pass thru the veil of human limitations and ignorance. To understand them is to become one, as they are all one and limitless and allseeing. Ascended.

Or they may be dead, just sayin' P

Death is meaningless where they are, as time and space is meaningless, all what matters there is the ultimate knowledge. That's why they went there, as mind and body can't look further than seeing our ruined kingdoms. I have seen our ruined kingdoms as they are, while I took a quick look thru the "circle of edges", their own doorway to ascendancy. But I could not see where are they. The edge was not allowing me to see there, and while I have been changed in the past, under the carefull eye of skilled genetic engineers, its not enough to ascend.

Circle of edges was the talocan structure Caldari Navy tried to research, Jove was involved at some point, but it led only to some people losing mind. Its central, crucial part was levitating circle of a thin edge, hollow inside, but the whole structure was battleship sized, the visible part, as no one knew how many dimensions were there.