EVE New Citizens Q&A

First.

"Not AS profitable as mining"

You do know that mining is in general the worst paying thing in EVE. if you 3 blitz level 4 missions together you will earn WAY more.

Hell combat sites should be way more profitable then you mentioned. It likely means your fits are not correct if it is as you say.



As for fun things to do, stop being that boring "carebear" that stares at rocks all day... Go out and shoot someone in the face (in game of course).

There are three types of standing - agent, corporation, and faction. The highest of your respective standings is used to unlock access to missions. Agent and corporate standing are increased everytime you complete a mission. Faction standing comes from completing storyline mission (special missions offered after 16 "normal" ones). The easiest way to unlock higher levels is to run missions for a single corp. It will also speed things up considerably if you train the "social" and "connections" skills.

As for fitting, IMO there is no "correct" way to fit your ship, but there are many "incorrect" ways. Battleclinic is...ok. But you should always take everything there with a grain of salt. Start by looking at the bonuses of your ship. then look at the fits on battleclinic and see which one best uses those bonuses. Then think about how you can improve it even further. This isn't easy as a new player because you don't know what modules are available to you, but it gets easier as you fit more ships.

I get that it is fun to play with your RL friends, but you might also consider looking for an active newbro-friendly corporation to join. EVE is a very complex game and it helps to have some vets around to answer you questions and introduce you to different playstyles. Playing with other new players is typically the blind leading the blind, and kind of hit or miss. You may stumble onto a really fun activity and get hooked, or you may miss it completely and get bored of mining/missioning. There's way more to EVE than grindy PVE, but it's easy to miss if you aren't in the right circles.

I would second the previous suggestion. Put the three of you into some cheap frigates, head out to faction warfare lowsec, and see who you can kill. There's a very high probability all of you will die, but you would be surprised what a couple newbros in frigates can take down with a bit of coordination. PVP is generally more engaging than PVE and is a different experience every time you undock.

Kill some people.

Plaint1 frigs. Caldari options include the Merlin, kestrel, condor and griffon.

Your confusion is exactly why I made the recommendation.

Three young players can destroy a smaller force if you can figure out the right tactics. Do that with each other.

In EVE. large weapons have a hard time hitting small targets, while small weapons are very damn good at hitting large targets. Large weapons also have a harder time hitting fast moving targets than small weapons, and frigates can be very damn fast. This means that a fast moving frigate with a small signature radius can fly "under the guns" of larger ships and slowly whittle away their tank. Frigates play many important roles in fleets as ships that for example can quickly deliver warp disruptors where they are needed.

From the looks of it seems like you lot would be far better off if you would sign up to a larger corp that can teach you the basics.

There are several corp that mainly take newbies, such a brave newbies, EvEuniversity, RvB and many others there are also the so called 'Not Purple Shoot It' - type of gangs that form up a fleet and go shooting stuff (spectre fleet, bombers bar and what not).

So your first issue of the day is to get standing for some decent agents which is done by doing first enough lvl 1 then lvl 2 and so forth up until lvl 4's (5' would require man power and investments that you three can't afford).

So once you have that money base firmly growing up you can start thing what else is there besides grinding ISK from the shallow waters presented by high sec and lvl 4's.

As to how guns works in EVE there's so handy little graph that I have lost count on how many times I've posted it when someone is asking about turret mechanics.

I had this odd compulsion to check the forums, I wasn't sure why but now I see.

In eve bigger is not better.

Every ship has a stat called "signature radeus", this is the ships effective size.

Guns have two stats relevant to this discussion, "tracking speed" and "signature resolution",

The latter is what dictates how effective that gun will be on a target, if you're ships signature radius (sig) is lower than the signature resolution of the guns , the guns will have difficulty applying their damage to your ship.

You can manipulate your ships Sig , microwarpdrives make it bloom x 5, afterburners do not.
You can drop it down by carefully choosing your fitting and using implants.

The former "tracking speed" is fairly straightforward in concept , it's how fast The guns can track a moving target, the bigger the guns , the slower the tracking, the further the target, the easier it is to track .

Tracking and signature mechanics play a part in calculating how much damage is applyd from one target to another and is balanced specifically to make large ships vulnerable to small ones unless they have
a) tailored their fit specifically to deal with small fast targets (thus Sacrificing their effectivenes against big slows targets) or
b) the support of friendly small fast things

Now to take advantage of this what you do is ,
when in a frigate you approach the battlecriser from an angle to maximize your transversel velocity (you can have this display on your overview), and once you've gotten close to it (assuming he didn't one shot you , yes it will happen if he can land a solid hit) you Can orbit his ship at speed and because of his (comparatively) poor tracking he likely will not be able to hit you at all.

This is called "getting under their guns".

Here's . some . evidence

believe it or not, that's the abridged version, the version with the math would make your head explode.

Edit: also here is something you can do with your mates, as per the blog, one of ye scanns , the other two go and **** with the bears, take it in turns scanning.

Welcome to eve.

Ralph are you trying to say that you felt a great disturbance in the force? Was it as if a million voices suddenly cired out in terror and were suddenly silenced?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA0kNGaYrtg


This is good advice Centis. I would like to add that isk / hour wise 3 lower skill point and inexperienced pilots would probably be better off sticking with level 3s but if you want something more challenging then try the level 4's

Close,
Feyd ran off with all the hoods when he scarperd for null,

hense I am hoodless

Welcome to Eve guys !!

Here are maybe some valuable resources:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Your_first_days_in_space

http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/guides/politics/30-things

http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/guides/politics/30-things

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_University_Class_Library

http://www.evealtruist.com/p/article-index.html

http://www.evealtruist.com/p/article-index.html

Remember, EvE is a game where to improve You almost have to spend more time off the game reading articles
and watching videos, as You spent in the game.