EVE General Discussion

1. False. The blue doughnut is a myth.

2. False. EVE has survived the worst years of MMO competition and todays market is not as crowded as it has been at its worst.

3. False. Supers breaking the rock-paper-scissors of regular ship balancing is not interesting.

4. False. The majority has always preferred cost effective ships and the people who have flown bling before do so today as well.

5. False. Long term highsec carebears have never been interested in playing EVE. Newbies are still being rescued away from highsec the same as before.

1- It's human nature to make allies for mutual protection, that said the blue donut is a myth, goons will happily shoot at their allies, and then tell VR(o7), as is their tradition.
2- meh, most of them are trying to be WoW in a different setting or are f2p/p2w. There have been many "Eve Killers" over the years, Eve has managed to outlive most of them.
3- Never been in one, will refrain from commenting.
4- Why use a hideously expensive ship when the circumstances don't warrant it if cheap ones are just as effective when used en masse.
5- I blame some of the people in NPC corps for the first part, there's quite a few that actively discourage people from venturing out of hisec.

Noobs or newbs?
Noobs aren't worth bothering with for the most part.

On the other hand, newbs have never had it so good tbh. The existing social groups in the NPC corps are going to benefit immensely from social corps in terms of visibility, their leaders are often alts of seasoned players from all over Eve, they actively recruit newbs and have a finger in virtually every pie in Eve.

Resources, and the resulting profits, have always been a driving force behind warfare, both in Eve and the real world; no change there.

yeah,
actually we treat the new guys fairly well,
they just need to prove that they aren't complete bell-ends first.

happily we know how to find out,
by shooting them in the face.

The going complaint is the SOV procedures make it impossible to conquer CFC.
The story goin' roun' is CCP's workin' on the SOV so ASAP after this the CFC will be O-U-T.

Titans are a fist, and like any other fist, you need a good target to hit it with. Titan's DD caps. That is all they do. That is all they need to do. The only reason nobody drops them is because the two major power blocs are still in the midst of a super cold war, and we're going to keep building them till something ignites and we dogpile.


As for "cheap ships" nullsec has pirate battleships and T3 cruisers as pretty much the standard hammer drop these days. Wormhole pilots continue to **** faction and officer T3's and carriers, lowsec duders careen around in their navy slicers and dramiels like its going out of style, and highsec station humpers have always had the rule "go bling or go home". I have no idea where you're getting the idea that nobody flies expensive stuff anymore.


EVE's not perfect, but right now its on as solid ground as its ever been.

2014 could be classified as the "Year of Yawn", as far as sov null sec goes, and it seems to be spilling into 2015 as well.

Undoubtedly, one of the problems for sov null sec is that the min/max crowd have used standings, NIPs & NAPs to reduce risk to a bare minimum whilst maximising income streams (PVE and moon goo extraction in particular). CCP have finally recognized sov warfare and sov null is sick and has begun a course of treatment to cure it of it's woes. The Pheobe phase I sov overhaul (jump drive nerf) addressed the issue of almost risk free/instantaneous travel across New Eden (power projection) but more needs to be done for sure.

I suspect CCP is intending to make similar far reaching changes to the EHP structure mountain and there have been suggestions of an occupancy based sov mechanic also. Will the latter be enough to make sov null a rich and vibrant PVP game enviroment? I doubt it to be honest. Until the n+1 issue is addressed (i.e blue'ing up 40000+ players) then the coward min/max coalitions will continue to be the norm. Personally, I'd like to see a blue tax that exponentially scales with the number of blue capsuleers an alliance has.

Now it has to be said that null sec isn't completely devoid of pew pew. The game reserve of Catch appears to offer the bored coalitions plently of no consequence combat opportunities. Additionally, there are several small independent alliances (typically based in NPC null) that have a fantastic time mounting geurilla attacks against foes that far outnumber them.

Posting in a stealth eve is dying thread.

You have 2 massive power blocks, neither can beat each other and nobody can beat them.

You then have the tedium that is large fleet fights in null sec and the grinding of structures, add to this the new jump mechanics and constant nerf in of capital ships and you have massive areas of null sec which are empty.

When you then take into account very poor new player retention and vets either unsubbing accounts or leaving altogether then you a game which is stale.

However the Eve community being what it is will just ignore all the facts and role out the old same tired lines while the average PCU continues with it decline

EVE is dying thread no 49013523524632.5

/me summons our friendly ISD...

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