These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

The Eve Online universe might be right...
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#1 - 2015-02-12 19:07:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Unsuccessful At Everything
According to new theories.. we may actually be living in a fluid universe..

Quote:
In physical terms, the model describes the universe as being filled with a quantum fluid. The scientists propose that this fluid might be composed of gravitons—hypothetical massless particles that mediate the force of gravity. If they exist, gravitons are thought to play a key role in a theory of quantum gravity.


..Meaning that our Fluid Universe Space Submarine game might actually be (somewhat)right with physics! Big smile

What else did CCP get (somewhat)right eventhough the rest of the world and/or common sense thinks its wrong? Are doors not supposed to open? Can we shoot through solid matter with a missile? Is there actually a universal horizontal that all spaceships will orient themselves to?!?!?! Can we bump something at 800m/s and sustain no damage whatsoever? IS THERE EVEN A BACO..errr ..SPOON?!?!?!1!?!1!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#2 - 2015-02-12 19:10:51 UTC
nope, ill agree with the theory as ive read it too but the movement of ships is still wrong and so is bumping with no damage

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Jishi Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-02-12 19:36:00 UTC
I wonder how long it will be until NASA's first asteroid mining robots get ganked by the return of Voyager 1 and the new rogue drone collective.

Time will only tell.Pirate
Tiffany 'Tiffs' Succeed
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-02-12 19:50:49 UTC
So they realised there *might actually be* an Ether out there.

Better late than never, I guess.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-02-12 20:04:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Tiffany 'Tiffs' Succeed wrote:
So they realised there *might actually be* an Ether out there.

Better late than never, I guess.


I see no mention of 'ethers' in either the article linked here, nor the actual article it's referencing.

It should also be worth noting, too, that this new 'theory' is still in its hypothesis stage. All they've done is resolve some equations. There's definitely more research to do. Likewise, the article doesn't suggest that the 'big bang' didn't occur, just that it didn't come from a singularity.

In contrast, this article is definitely worth a read.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2015-02-12 20:08:35 UTC
Jishi Padecain wrote:
I wonder how long it will be until NASA's first asteroid mining robots get ganked by the return of Voyager 1 and the new rogue drone collective.

Time will only tell.Pirate

Think China will ask for their stuff when they ground the bots?

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
PhantomMajor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-02-12 20:12:04 UTC
Agondray wrote:
nope, ill agree with the theory as ive read it too but the movement of ships is still wrong and so is bumping with no damage


If you would believe that our shields are a form of electromagnetic energy fields then they would probably all have similar polarized "north and south poles", so it might be possible to bump people in a manner to pushing to sourh pole magnets together.
However the inertia created without some kind of dampening field would just kill all the crew of the ships involved as they wouldn't be able to withstand the gravitational effects of the collision
PhantomMajor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-02-12 20:19:24 UTC  |  Edited by: PhantomMajor
Double post grrrr mobile phones
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-02-12 20:50:29 UTC
Tiffany 'Tiffs' Succeed wrote:
So they realised there *might actually be* an Ether out there.

Better late than never, I guess.


What they are talking about and the Aether are two totally different and unrelated ideas. The original description of the Aether is still horribly wrong.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#10 - 2015-02-12 21:41:35 UTC
If CCP got it right then they must have got info from somewhere else. and CCP has 3 letters and 1 successful game 3 sides and 1 eye. Illuminati confirmed.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-02-12 22:13:13 UTC
Davey Talvanen wrote:
If CCP got it right then they must have got info from somewhere else. and CCP has 3 letters and 1 successful game 3 sides and 1 eye. Illuminati confirmed.



You are doing it wrong!

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-02-12 22:39:24 UTC
Please don't conflate the terms "theory" and "hypothesis". This gives credence to the less intelligent in our society who use terms like " evolution is only a theory".

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#13 - 2015-02-13 01:36:29 UTC
Hmm.... Ought to be bonus points for achieving a vertical bump. Double points for bumping a ship through a moon/planet/station.

(Could be quadruple points for preventing the same. But too hard to track, unconfirmed claims, all that.)
Mildew Wolf
#14 - 2015-02-13 02:06:42 UTC
Maybe you can bounce off of the sun? While receiving no burns ofc
Trey Kutoi
SergalJerk
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#15 - 2015-02-13 08:27:18 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Maybe you can bounce off of the sun? While receiving no burns ofc


in eve, you can go faster than the speed of light in 'sublight' mode (nonwarp speed) by getting bumped by the sun, though its still a hell of a lot slower than warp drive
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#16 - 2015-02-13 08:35:12 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
According to new theories.. we may actually be living in a fluid universe..

Quote:
In physical terms, the model describes the universe as being filled with a quantum fluid. The scientists propose that this fluid might be composed of gravitons—hypothetical massless particles that mediate the force of gravity. If they exist, gravitons are thought to play a key role in a theory of quantum gravity.


..Meaning that our Fluid Universe Space Submarine game might actually be (somewhat)right with physics! Big smile

What else did CCP get (somewhat)right eventhough the rest of the world and/or common sense thinks its wrong? Are doors not supposed to open? Can we shoot through solid matter with a missile? Is there actually a universal horizontal that all spaceships will orient themselves to?!?!?! Can we bump something at 800m/s and sustain no damage whatsoever? IS THERE EVEN A BACO..errr ..SPOON?!?!?!1!?!1!



Centuries from now, scientists will marvel about how much of this game turned out to be true.

And why not?

Almost every trope in Eve is taken from science fiction and science fiction is derived from science. (Can I get a big "duh" here? )

Take the clones for example. They ARE actually taking hearts and "bleaching" the DNA out of them, leaving a structure that can be filled with someone else's DNA. Might be a century before we see them do that to an entire body.

But think about this: the jet engine existed in concept almost a century before they were built. It merely took time for the metallurgy to catch up (and even those first engines, like in the ME-262, would spontaneously blow up) . So we already have the concept of cloning, eventually the technology to facilitate it will catch up.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#17 - 2015-02-13 11:13:15 UTC
Quote:
...universe as being filled with a quantum fluid...


Tears. The fluid in the eve universe is tears. (at least that's what i thought)

Proposal: >>> New Inventory / Item Hangar <<<
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#18 - 2015-02-13 11:17:23 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
According to new theories.. we may actually be living in a fluid universe..

Quote:
In physical terms, the model describes the universe as being filled with a quantum fluid. The scientists propose that this fluid might be composed of gravitons—hypothetical massless particles that mediate the force of gravity. If they exist, gravitons are thought to play a key role in a theory of quantum gravity.


..Meaning that our Fluid Universe Space Submarine game might actually be (somewhat)right with physics! Big smile

What else did CCP get (somewhat)right eventhough the rest of the world and/or common sense thinks its wrong? Are doors not supposed to open? Can we shoot through solid matter with a missile? Is there actually a universal horizontal that all spaceships will orient themselves to?!?!?! Can we bump something at 800m/s and sustain no damage whatsoever? IS THERE EVEN A BACO..errr ..SPOON?!?!?!1!?!1!


I too will take your ever-so-serious post and refute the notion that CCP got it right.

A massless quantum fluid would obviously not slow down our ships and create a maximum top speed like Eve's space-gravy does. It's the mass of the medium that does the slowing down, requiring energy to move out of the way.

And yes, there is, and ever will be, BACON!

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-02-13 11:59:07 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
According to new theories.. we may actually be living in a fluid universe..

Quote:
In physical terms, the model describes the universe as being filled with a quantum fluid. The scientists propose that this fluid might be composed of gravitons—hypothetical massless particles that mediate the force of gravity. If they exist, gravitons are thought to play a key role in a theory of quantum gravity.


..Meaning that our Fluid Universe Space Submarine game might actually be (somewhat)right with physics! Big smile

What else did CCP get (somewhat)right eventhough the rest of the world and/or common sense thinks its wrong? Are doors not supposed to open? Can we shoot through solid matter with a missile? Is there actually a universal horizontal that all spaceships will orient themselves to?!?!?! Can we bump something at 800m/s and sustain no damage whatsoever? IS THERE EVEN A BACO..errr ..SPOON?!?!?!1!?!1!



Centuries from now, scientists will marvel about how much of this game turned out to be true.

And why not?

Almost every trope in Eve is taken from science fiction and science fiction is derived from science. (Can I get a big "duh" here? )

Take the clones for example. They ARE actually taking hearts and "bleaching" the DNA out of them, leaving a structure that can be filled with someone else's DNA. Might be a century before we see them do that to an entire body.

But think about this: the jet engine existed in concept almost a century before they were built. It merely took time for the metallurgy to catch up (and even those first engines, like in the ME-262, would spontaneously blow up) . So we already have the concept of cloning, eventually the technology to facilitate it will catch up.




creating a biomaterial duplicate, we can already pretty much do. The conciousness transfer ... I'm not sure we have anywhere near even theory on it yet? Do we?

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#20 - 2015-02-13 15:02:21 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
According to new theories.. we may actually be living in a fluid universe..

Quote:
In physical terms, the model describes the universe as being filled with a quantum fluid. The scientists propose that this fluid might be composed of gravitons—hypothetical massless particles that mediate the force of gravity. If they exist, gravitons are thought to play a key role in a theory of quantum gravity.


..Meaning that our Fluid Universe Space Submarine game might actually be (somewhat)right with physics! Big smile

What else did CCP get (somewhat)right eventhough the rest of the world and/or common sense thinks its wrong? Are doors not supposed to open? Can we shoot through solid matter with a missile? Is there actually a universal horizontal that all spaceships will orient themselves to?!?!?! Can we bump something at 800m/s and sustain no damage whatsoever? IS THERE EVEN A BACO..errr ..SPOON?!?!?!1!?!1!






Everytime you post something I get all warm inside for I'm about to enjoy some good reading.

Blue
12Next page