Jita Park Speakers Corner

The main reason nullsec is the way it is right now, isn't because the entire universe has gone soft, it's because of mainly the SOV system, and probably to a certain extent also the supercaps. But the main reason is the SOV system.

I've been chomping at the bits for a proper war ever since I joined goons, in fact I joined goons because I wanted to stop being a carebear and start being a PVPer, because I was getting bored with the same old same old of hisec. First thing that happened, we ****** up SOV payments. Second thing that happened was getting in on MAX2, which fizzled out after a few months. Third thing that happened was grinding deklein from TCF after they basically disbanded and gave it to us. Fourth thing that happened was a nice ramp up to what looked like an awesome war for fountain etc, which fizzled after we'd ground through a few systems and ganked some of IT's supercaps.

I want constant war. I demand constant war. I'm not getting it, though, because the SOV system makes it so the defenders have a huge advantage in that they can defend a system once and reset all progress for another week, and once it's clear they've lost a few systems in a row they tend to just give up, leaving a fizzling war. This sucks cocks.

I wouldn't necessarily attribute all the current malaise to SOV but I do agree SOV needs an overhaul.

Indeed you did. I still wouldn't throw that many eggs into that basket, but that said, once CCP makes some adjustments we can see how it all shakes out. If that much of the dissatisfaction in null-sec is tied to SOV then 0.0 should perk right up if CCP works SOV out in a reasonable manner.

I don't think even in a game with automagically renewing resources that LOTS of mass combat could be sustained even if people wanted to. Assuming it explodes we will likely have even more crying about various streams of income because a lot of people will be too lazy too take the time to make money to support their ship habits...So much of gathering resources in this game is based on people's ability and willingness to dedicate to time to log on and do things in game...and if one or two groups manages to steamroll almost everyone else because controls to slow people's rolls have been removed...you lose when you win because there is no one of significance left to fight.

It's a delicate balance and one that may not have a solution that is satisfactory for most players

Truth is it will be interesting to see how things play out.

Edited for clarity.

^^This.

Game, set, and match.

I would just like to see CCP look after the entire sandbox, if truly a sandbox game this is.

I can give you a long one, if that helps.

Have you considered any interpretation of those statistics at all? I would venture most of the pvp in Jita is actually fueled by null sec alliances, war decs against them and their dumb members going there, as well as alts of high sec players suicide ganking.

There is certainly real high sec war decs, but most of the response to high sec pvp is for players to hide, they are overly rewarded for being extremely risk adverse.

In my opinion a similarly skilled character operating in 0.0 should realize significant gains in income over his twin in empire, due to the increased risk and logistical requirements of living in 0.0. Currently the risk/reward balance is out of wack.

Consider it this way though, the null sec entities would love to see new emerging threats coming from high/low sec. It's basically new content for us to interact with. I'd love for CCP to come up with a real way for corps to form, grow, and move up through tiers of security. Unfortunately the game doesn't really reward this style of play, and players according either get to 0.0 right away or live in empire forever.

Ultimately I'm sad for people that don't experience all the different ways to play eve. I think you're missing out on using your full subscription dollar, especially if you grind rocks or missions in high sec endlessly in search of that slightly better fitted ultimate grinding ship.

High sec players are like 70% or so of playerbase... so yea CCP dosn't care.