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Triksterism
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-02-11 18:51:28 UTC
A lot of people down here in providence recommend using this overlay program to detect people in local a lot easier but before I use it I wondered if it was legal.

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Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#2 - 2015-02-11 18:54:41 UTC
**** providece you carebear
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#3 - 2015-02-11 18:55:36 UTC
Wait.. I thought Provi was all NRDS... why would one need a third party program to determine such things?



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Miriana 'Trauma' Dallocort
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-02-11 18:58:49 UTC
Ok so can I minimize local and just use the overlay to show nets/reds when they come in system? That would be nice, id use that.
Memphis Baas
#5 - 2015-02-11 19:00:08 UTC
Not in Providence or associated with anyone involved, but typically NRDS involves a complicated list of reds, so that enemies can be separated from neutrals and shot, and I guess the in-game standings system just couldn't keep up with the number of reds that they have or with how often new reds are added to the list.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2015-02-11 19:00:17 UTC
it puts it's query on a support ticket or else it gets the troll again.



What's the program called?

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#7 - 2015-02-11 19:02:58 UTC
Hmm.

Depends on how it works. If it's a
'manually copy the local list to your clipboard', then it's /probably/ fine.

If it's 'monitor eve's memory to find out who's in local' then no, it's most definitely a bannable offence.

However, the best option is to put in a support ticket. If you get the ok there, you may still be banned, but you have a better chance to be unbanned.

CCP will not list programs it's ok to use (as then they'd have to keep an eye on them, to make sure they don't change to become 'bad'.

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Agent Known
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-02-11 19:12:19 UTC
According to the source code on Bitbucket, it looks like it listens for clipboard data (much like EFT does for fits) for a specific format (aka, the pilot list) and parses it. It doesn't seem to actually look into Eve's memory from what I can tell.

Relevant code: https://bitbucket.org/louisburton/kosoverlay/src/c2da84f32d2456e392fa27cee1a85a887ba9863f/src/main/java/com/quickcamel/game/eve/kosoverlay/initiator/KeyListener.java?at=master
Triksterism
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-02-11 19:13:26 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Hmm.

Depends on how it works. If it's a
'manually copy the local list to your clipboard', then it's /probably/ fine.

If it's 'monitor eve's memory to find out who's in local' then no, it's most definitely a bannable offence.

However, the best option is to put in a support ticket. If you get the ok there, you may still be banned, but you have a better chance to be unbanned.

CCP will not list programs it's ok to use (as then they'd have to keep an eye on them, to make sure they don't change to become 'bad'.


I cant tell https://bitbucket.org/louisburton/kosoverlay
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2015-02-11 19:19:07 UTC
Probably best to support ticket.

Like killing something with fire and/or nuking it from orbit, its the only way to be sure.



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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#11 - 2015-02-11 19:20:51 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Wait.. I thought Provi was all NRDS... why would one need a third party program to determine such things?





Because everyone is red to them.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2015-02-11 19:21:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Hmm.

Depends on how it works. If it's a
'manually copy the local list to your clipboard', then it's /probably/ fine.

If it's 'monitor eve's memory to find out who's in local' then no, it's most definitely a bannable offence.

However, the best option is to put in a support ticket. If you get the ok there, you may still be banned, but you have a better chance to be unbanned.

CCP will not list programs it's ok to use (as then they'd have to keep an eye on them, to make sure they don't change to become 'bad'.
Exactly as the man said.

As such, thread locked as you will not get a definitive answer here on the forum.

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