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Lowsec PodKill super sec status hit?

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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-02-08 06:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tisiphone Dira
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign.


http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status

Ah, hello number 661. You've got a long way to go.


Let's get down to podding, to defeat the carebears!

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-02-08 10:44:03 UTC
Generally speaking, it's bizarre that standard lowsec gameplay (shooting stuff) has a near-zero effect on your lowsec experience (except fairly rare gate/station crimewatch mechanic games), but instead has a huge effect on your highsec experience.

Not that lowseccers care much about highsec, but please remind me why facpo discouraging them from occasionally roaming through highsec is good game design?

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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-02-08 12:11:40 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign.


http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status

Ah, hello number 661. You've got a long way to go.


Let's get down to podding, to defeat the carebears!


Sweet Jesus your avatar! What unholy abomination is this? Kill it! Burn it with fire!
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#24 - 2015-02-08 12:11:54 UTC
implying that the hit to security status makes any difference whatsoever.......
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-02-08 16:23:08 UTC
Dun'Gal wrote:
implying that the hit to security status makes any difference whatsoever.......

^-- this, cause lol sec status. It does....what? Make you blinky...egad, now you are KOS to other players in high sec but those same blinky -10 dudes where going to shoot them anyway so it goes either way. NPC and gate guns....align faster to escape, swear that glaciers move faster....CONCORD don't give a sh*t, CCP didn't institute lock out/tax penalty. It does....nothing. Calling OP troll for attention, cause podding is an option for killboard padding and erection length measurement, you don't actually have to pod people.
Raymond Moons
Parallactic Veil
#26 - 2015-02-08 17:07:07 UTC
Clone tags allow you to buy back your security status, so it's never been easier to return to high sec than it is now. If you don't want the sec status hit, no one is forcing you to shoot at pods in empire.
Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2015-02-08 18:11:11 UTC
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk?


There's a place for what you want. It's called nullsec. Stop trying to homogenize EVE.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-02-09 01:35:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign.


disco a bunch of pods in jita I went from +5 to -10 in about 10 seconds Twisted


Yet 1 podkill in a .4 (lowsec) will take you from positive sec status to like -3.6 boom 1 second

Seems OP

Clone/med costs GONE
Skillpoint loss. GONE
Npcs podding players. HERE

Crimewatch even allowed the legal aggression of pods after fights a couple years ago

Time to rebalance the harsh podkill laws?


No.

Most 0.4s border high sec, the entry points for newbros and first-time lowseccers. One of the reasons many lowsec areas such as Khanid are so dead and empty is because people like to gatecamp those entry points, despite the penalties already, for easy killboard padding.

How about you balls up like a real lowseccer and go -10? No real lowseccer needs that sec status anyway, and then you can stop begging on the forums for cheaper kills with less penalties, because you won't care about the penalties anymore.

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Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#29 - 2015-02-11 21:37:15 UTC
Lena Lazair wrote:
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk?


There's a place for what you want. It's called nullsec. Stop trying to homogenize EVE.


Then highsec shouldnt have the same security hits as lowec right? Its what you just said! Sooooo crimes in hisec=super sec hit. Crimes=null zero sec hit... wait for it.... crimes in low== low sec hit! Yay makes sense. U so smart
Helios Panala
#30 - 2015-02-12 10:10:10 UTC
You don't have to shoot the pod you know.
Hrothgar Nilsson
#31 - 2015-02-12 10:35:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrothgar Nilsson
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status

Ah, hello number 661. You've got a long way to go.


Let's get down to podding, to defeat the carebears!

You do realize that eveboard has a hair less than 1% of all characters on it, right? ;)

I'd be the 39th richest person in EVE by wallet balance if eveboard were anything to go by, but I doubt I'm even in the top 1000. :)

Probably more like "hello number 15,432".
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
#32 - 2015-02-12 11:16:47 UTC
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
So with skillpoint lose gone and medical cost gone, and npcs starting to pod people even in highsec, Why is there still such a Super Atomic Massive Negative securtiy penatly hit for podding?

Even in lowsec.....?

Now if you commit criminal agression, you lose secstatus, makes sense
It is also relative to the systems sec status (ie you gank a venture in a 1.0 you lose more secStatus then if you did the same in a .5)
Also makes sense...


Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED!
Shouldnt podding in a .1-.4 be the same rate? Also way less than current?

Why is this like this still after all the changes to take away podloss negatives/loss/risk?






There was a time when -10 was something folks ran around as a badge of job well done.

Now days I see more and more whine on "hey why consequences"

Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2015-02-12 13:13:04 UTC
Shailagh wrote:
Then highsec shouldnt have the same security hits as lowec right? Its what you just said! Sooooo crimes in hisec=super sec hit. Crimes=null zero sec hit... wait for it.... crimes in low== low sec hit! Yay makes sense. U so smart


Lowsec is Empire space, so yeah it should have the same security hit formula as the rest of Empire space (including the highsec bits). Lowsec's entire uniqueness is that it isn't lawless space, it's just Empire space with no CONCORD response.

You want a place where security doesn't matter? That's out in nullsec, which is not Empire space.
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#34 - 2015-02-12 13:21:33 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign.


this.

and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear

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Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2015-02-12 14:47:21 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign.


disco a bunch of pods in jita I went from +5 to -10 in about 10 seconds Twisted


Yet 1 podkill in a .4 (lowsec) will take you from positive sec status to like -3.6 boom 1 second

Seems OP

Clone/med costs GONE
Skillpoint loss. GONE
Npcs podding players. HERE

Crimewatch even allowed the legal aggression of pods after fights a couple years ago

Time to rebalance the harsh podkill laws?


No.

Most 0.4s border high sec, the entry points for newbros and first-time lowseccers. One of the reasons many lowsec areas such as Khanid are so dead and empty is because people like to gatecamp those entry points, despite the penalties already, for easy killboard padding.

How about you balls up like a real lowseccer and go -10? No real lowseccer needs that sec status anyway, and then you can stop begging on the forums for cheaper kills with less penalties, because you won't care about the penalties anymore.


If you fly logi boats, getting too low can be a major pain in the butt especially in frigs where your fleet won't be able to hold against the potential gate guns if they try to help you because you were a random target. It all depends what you are doing/looking for.
Chal0ner
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
#36 - 2015-02-12 14:55:43 UTC
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Jessica Duranin wrote:
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
Yet in LOWSEC in a .4 system, if you pod someone, your sec status is NUKED!

Lowsec doesn't mean that it's lawless space. Of course your sec status get's nuked when you commit murder in empire space.


It aint bad in a .1, but .4 is too severe sec hit.

It should round .4 DOWN!!

1 podkill in a .4 shouldn't make u like a -3.7 right off bat. Its lowsec for gods sakee


How is this even logical?
If it's a poding in low sec it's a poding in low sec regardsless of arbitrary numbers on systems sec indicator.
Chal0ner
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
#37 - 2015-02-12 14:57:53 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign.


this.

and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear


Rats has destroyed my pvp-ers sec status Cry
So +1 for this excellent suggestion Pirate
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#38 - 2015-02-12 15:01:07 UTC
yeah no penalties for kills that wont increase ganking at all.
While we are at it lets make it so when you die or kill someone they don't lose a ship and only a percentage for gear.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Leannor
BlackWatch Industrial Group
Reckless Contingency.
#39 - 2015-02-13 13:21:36 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
because podding is an act of pure evil


personally I see killing the ship as more of an evil ... the pod is free, implants easy to refit and acquire, plus it give you a free ride back to your base to get the next ship ...

Podding is so not evil at all.


(it used to be a little more evil when there were clones, and you actually lost skill points ifyour were cheap enough to not update your clone, ... but now, pods are pointless and worthless. Might as well get rid of them.

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"

Leannor
BlackWatch Industrial Group
Reckless Contingency.
#40 - 2015-02-13 13:23:20 UTC
Chal0ner wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Considering how long it takes to get to -10 I'd prefer the sec hit to be increased not decreased. I've been stuck at -9.6 for ages. We should also get free monocles when we hit it. For both eyes. And a better wanted sign.


this.

and make it harder for rats to give you sec status because i dont want to look like a carebear


Rats has destroyed my pvp-ers sec status Cry
So +1 for this excellent suggestion Pirate



0.0 rats don't up your sec ... (or do they?)

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"

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