Intergalactic Summit

Ah, why should we be exiled from having our say on topics of importance?

You don't see us going into I-RED's topics and derailing them with personal attacks. Nor anyone telling I-RED that they aren't allowed to comment on matters of galactic import because they are Caldari Loyalists. Nor anyone blaming I-RED for their topics getting derailed by Gallente / Minmatar trolls. Honestly.

Excuse me, but this really isn't my thread. It's Soter's. I feel compelled to speak because I don't like what i'm seeing here.

Soter started this because he cares about the Sleepers. You're basically saying that he shouldn't be allowed to post about the things he cares about on the IGS because it hurts someone else's feelings.

Frankly, i'm starting to get pretty pissed off.

As far as this GMVA announcement goes please note that my organization holds no opinion in this discussion and any statementsmade were made on an individual basis. Whatever these seekers are up to is not part of the scope of our current contract. Nor are Black Rise politics.

I would like to state, for the record, that my contribution was a personal opinion and not the opinion of Pyre Falcon, who I am not empowered to speak on behalf of in any capacity.

Apologies if that was unclear.

Random, non-combatant? Of low-standing. Hrm...

Don't flatter yourself Soter. You don't need to be the point person for a potential peace accord. You're just one of the few Gallente that seemed to have sense enough to I.D. a credible outside threat. The "overture" wasn't meant to inflate your already considerable ego, but to give both sides time and space to address the threat that our new neighbors pose. Don't make the mistake of thinking that you're actually needed as a part of that process.

That you can't see the relevance, only proves right your many detractors.

Personally I think a little species-based solidarity could be a good thing. Any civilization that is more advanced than our own is a threat. Just like we're a threat to any lesser civilizations we may encounter. The Circadian Seeker ships have a faster point, better range, and tougher shields/armor than even a Caldari ship of the same class (I'd love/hate to see what they'd do to a typical Gallente Bento Box). They learn and learn fast.

And there's a difference...they don't behave like a typical rogue drone. There's an intelligence behind them. And that's the biggest and most dangerous variable of all. So as was said, a little prudence on our part right now could save a lot of lives down the road.

Since Soter would much rather revel in his own witticisms, I'll throw a modified offer out there to the general public. If you live and/or work in Black Rise and want to delve further into this, including a serious amount of defensive research, drop me a line.

Things probably won't go all to hell. Probably.

I already told you that GMVA has attempted the kind of de escalation of conflict you proposed. Want to show us something relevant? Organize your own coalition of players to follow your lead. Contact me once you've made a concrete and impactful effort in good faith. Then GMVA will consider a proportional response in kind.

Look, all due respect, but we don't tell you what to do with [-BRCE] corporate operational goals. What makes you think you have the right to tell us how to run our Alliance?

As it stands, your organization consists of two Capsuleers. You are not currently engaged in the Warzone. Hence, GMVA has absolutely no reason to redeploy any our Eight Member Corporations consisting of nearly Three Hundred Pilots from their current combat missions.

It is the current view of GMVA leadership that our organization is perfectly capable of responding to potential Sleeper activity while maintaining our current operational posture within the Warzone. If we have cause to reevaluate that assessment, we will.

I agree, the time for large scale military action may come. Until then, those of us with explicitly scientific interests need circadians to study. If there is nothing to study, we cannot make progress!

Believe me, all you who would sooner destroy them all than study them; study will eventually produce results. So yes, somethimg does need to be done now! But it should be to increase our understanding of this potential adversary, not turn to violence and destruction. Let's behave like the sleepers: observe, learn, adapt, then we can destroy if we need to. When we are more capable and ready to.

Hmmm, it would seem I haven't fully aware of the history of the situation as I had previously believed. I had thought that it was massive fleets from the empires that first moved into these uncharted systems and provoked the Sleepers to attack, would appear to be incorrect. Thank you for this correction.

This behavior does create more questions then it does answer. For I have seen ships destroyed by the Sleepers but they seem to ignore capsules.

In the end I'm not completely convinced that an all out assault by the Sleepers is immanent, if anything these recent incursions are more like scouting expedition and data recovery. I still feel we should proceed with caution and prepare for all contingency, including looking for sources of these Sleepers.

So weapons free boys and girls. Good hunting!

While I appreciate that some of us have an answer other than 'shoot them', given the continual rumors I've been hearing of deep range pilots and capsuleers reporting a battleship/dreadnaught sized hull lurking at the very edge of long range sensors outside of systems, I don't think we're going to be given a choice in this matter.