EVE General Discussion

I was driving home from work the other day and caught part of a philosophy program on the BBC.

The gist of it was that in the times of the ancient Romans and Greeks many philosophers thought that men were superior to the Gods on the grounds that the Gods by virtue of being immortal and unkillable could not know fear and as such could not be brave.

Men by virtue of the fact that they could be killed can of course know fear and bravery. This is a state impossible for Gods.

I immediately thought of us immortal capsuleers, who can get killed and re-cloned in a hearbeat. Technically we can not know death so does this mean that we can not be brave?

Assets can be replaced, ships and crew are meaningless to us especially if a coalition is underwriting our battles.

So I ask can any of us know bravery?

What about Fear?

Why didn't you just say no then?

Since when am I known for my 'one word' answers?

\No, it's not possible for our characters to be brave.

Some call it bravery. I call it moonshine.

An eternity of being trolled and kill mailed is something people fear. That is why the stations are so full of capsuleers and space is so empty.

If the Greek gods were so immortal; where are they now?

You can, here is how you (and any one can do it).

1. Ask your bank to lift your credit card limit to a level you know will stretch you financially.
2. Max out credit card on plex purchases.
3. Sell said plex in Jita for isk.
4. Use isk to buy:
A combat titan pilot
A titan holding pilot
3 scouting pilots
A jump freighter pilot
5. Buy a titan.
6. Officer fit your titan.
7. Find a pipe that attracts frequent but not continuous traffic.
8. Use your scouts to well scout.
9. When a target of opportunity arrives log in titan.
10. Solo hot drop. (oh yeah all of this must be done in an NPC Corp)
11. Keep Solo hot dropping until you notice an intense flair up cyno fields within 5 au of you.
12. Be brave just do 1 more.

Fear is simply the loss of rationale. It may "feel" bad, but it amounts to no more than that. As a result, what to be fearful of or whether fear is necessary becomes indefineable, which is what overwhelms. A supposed diety would "know" better.

Bravery, or overcoming something imagined by "dint of will" therefore isn't much of an accomplishment, as there is nothing to overcome. Situations humanity subjects itself to, then claims bravery ensued, are usually unnecessary situations humans bring upon themselves, (such as situations in wars). The surreal nature of such behavior, though it may give rise to both fear and bravery, is neither commendable, nor desireable.

Fight or flight reads as fear. Then, sometimes people read intoxication from booze as love, and unbridled greed as ambition. Meaning: Ultimately we have to believe sources with no credibility (including ourselves) when examining this so-called subject. This doesn't bother people in the main, since it gives them great stories, and a certain amount of admiration from the audience if the teller happens to be the brave one in the tale. We see that a lot from ... certain uniformed people today.

To answer your question. No, it's not possible to be brave at all. It is possible to convince yourself or others of that condition, however. It's that sort of behavior Mark Twain made a career out of, by the way.